Hitting Woes

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Hitting Slump Statistics

Some of these guys, it’s almost as if …”couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a f****** boat”.

Here’s a review of the Dodgers offense, just looking at batting averages.  Each player is shown with their batting averages over the past 28 days, the past 14 days, and the past 7 days:

Grandal .250/.056/.000
Gonzalez .247/.195/.211
Kendrick .396/na/na
Rollins .260/.227/.136
Turner .156/.156/.056
Ethier .364/.391/.333
Pederson .102/.095/.000
Puig .257/.344/.364
Guerrero .167/.125/.000
Hernandez .358/.308/.250
Van Slyke .188/.071/.000
Callaspo .268/.182/na
Ellis .250/.333/.600
Crawford .316/.348/.077
Utley .386/.387/.222

Just by looking through this list, the batters that look really bad are Grandal, Turner, Pederson, Guerrero, and Van Slyke.

 

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99 Responses to Hitting Woes

  1. crash24now says:

    Pulling forward kahiforni’s comment:

    kahliforni says:
    August 24, 2015 at 11:52 AM (Edit)

    I believe this roster is fine (maybe the bullpen is horrible, but the rest is as good as anyone else). But have you noticed that Rollins has been intimating for some time about small ball and moving runners over, etc.? Now that Utley is here, Rollins is even more adamant about it. These guys have been world champions. They know. They get it. I feel their frustration, but being first-year Dodgers, they can’t scream it…they haven’t been here long enough to demand it, but they probably have nightmares about the way this team goes about its business in-game, and they probably laugh about it when they’re done shaking their heads and crying. And Greinke and Kershaw, being as smart as they are, have noticed it, too. So allow me to translate: this manager, and by default, this organization, has its collective noggin up its collective posterior. I have serious doubts this team will finish ahead of the Gnats…and that means rounds of golf in October for the bunch of them.

    • crash24now says:

      At some point in the 1970’s the Baltimore Orioles revolted against Earl Weaver’s reliance on the long ball. Seems like that needs to happen on this team.

      • Dodger4life says:

        They’ve had plenty of opportunities to drive in runners without the long ball. They’ll go 3 for 4, but strike-out with runners on.

        • Dodger4life says:

          They struggle to come together as a unit on offense, and also struggle to sustain anything resembling a rally. It’s been…let’s put a couple of runners on and then they’ll die on the vine.

  2. nedisajerk says:

    I wish we had the Blue Jay offense. Hutchinson has a 12-2 record with a 5+ ERA and have a RS of at least 6.7+.

  3. koufax1963 says:

    It seems bronson arroyo might be off the DL in Late August.
    Matt Latos: What has happened, in to the BP
    Agree: our pitching sucks, our hitting sucks; if this does not turn around August 30, Toast with no jam.
    I mean its so frustrating, we could of pulled away from the gnats in August (even June) but NO, the problem is the gnats will get their Pence, Panik and Pagan back soon, and along with the other “P”, Posey, they will again take the series from the Dodgers.
    The gnats woes I understand. The Dodgers are baffeling, until you see it play out.

  4. crash24now says:

    I hate to say it, but here it goes:

    The Dodgers front office has diagnosed the problem. The problem is that the team is rife with a bunch of youngsters and lacks cohesiveness. The fix to the problem is “Proven Veteran Leadership”. Bring in another 36 year old Phillie who has won the World Series. Pair him up with the first 36 year old Phillie who won the World Series. Put them in the middle of the field and at the top of the lineup. Rollins and Utley will lead the team to a championship.

    Problem fixed.

    Not.

    • The Beav says:

      This is what I mean Crash. They have a philosophy, which for all intents and purposes is to rebuild with youth. They also have Ned’s leftovers. Rather than just totally commit to the youth movement and adhere to one philosophy, they’re trying to appease the fans by slurring the two together and it doesn’t work. The kids won’t really learn and come together unless they learn from their failings which they can’t because the FO keeps bringing in PVLs ala Ned. Donnie’s constant line-up shuffling doesn’t help build a cohesive unit either. They either have to commit to rebuilding or commit to Ned’s collection of talent theory, but you can’t do both at the same time or you do neither effectively. If they’d let the kids struggle and fail this year they’ll learn from it and hopefully be better for it next year. All they’re learning right now is that the PVLs can’t do it either.

      Then you have virtually every acquisition the FO has made based on metrics so underachieve their metric norms that its almost as if they’re trying to fail. Though I’d have to say their deadline pick-ups should’ve mostly failed the eye test to begin with.

      Now couple this with a manager and coaching staff that (A) doesn’t know how to handle young players and (B) makes some of the worst in game decisions imaginable and you’ve got a perfect storm for a cluster fuck.

      They need to admit they need to rebuild in their image and hire a new coaching staff that understands metrics, motivates the players, and can deal with kids and what comes with it. If they’d just do that, we may have something in 2019.

  5. lbirken says:

    I get a kick out of all the calls for some screaming or someone to step up. If it were that simple, everyone would be able to do it. Does screaming really help? Can a player or team just suddenly turn it on at will? Obviously, some players can and do carry a team and some teams just seem to catch fire. Is some of this just luck or is there more to it? I would like to think there is more to it and that is where talent, desire, preparation and determination come into play. There has to be a commitment to winning and an organizational approach to make it happen. Screaming at a player probably is not the answer. Throwing food in the clubhouse probably is not the answer either. The players know what is at stake.

    I do not totally agree with Beav’s feeling that we ask fans for patience to build a winner. That just does not fly with me. I understand it will take time to undo all the damage done by the previous owner but I don’t think becoming the Padres or other smaller market teams is the answer. I do agree that ownership has already said it wants to build from within (translate to lower priced players) and hopefully that will happen. There are not enough good quality minor leaguers to fill any team’s roster so free agents and trades will always be a key element in building rosters.

  6. nedisajerk says:

    Why does this bother me?

    Someone got a stat lines of .325/.393/.513/.906 in the 2nd spots guess who it is?

  7. nedisajerk says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/new-york-mets-philadelphia-phillies-350824122/

    Wow amazing everyone in the Mets starting lineup had a hit, hit at least one HR except Tejada and Wright is back. The Mets offense been on fire even though the Mets had 3 games in Coors lol.

  8. kahliforni says:

    Thought I’d compare the 1976 Dodgers to the 1977 Dodgers, because I sense similarities. Both clubs had the same starting pitching, same closer, same infield, same catcher, but substitute a full season of Reggie Smith (instead of 1/3), a full season of Dusty Baker (instead of 1/2) and Monday instead of Buckner. Granted, the outfield improved. The 1977 team made the World Series. 1976 finished 2nd. And oh yeah, Alston was replaced by Lasorda. I remember those days so well. Alston was a future Hall-of-Fame manager, but it was time for a new voice. You could almost feel it. I think you know what I’m driving at here. 🙂

  9. Dodger4life says:

    Ethier has been above average during this entire stretch. Puig has for the most part too
    .
    What about the job Hernandez has done and he does it no matter where you play him or insert him into the line-up.

    I think the fact that they have kept Dre out of CF this season has given him more endurance and better legs.

    I was looking at a photo of Puig when he first came up. He seemed to be in much better shape…he seemed to look like a kid with a very low % of body fat.

  10. Dodger4life says:

    A. Wood 5.01 ERA
    J. Lamb 6.35 ERA

    Can one of them improve on this stat tonight? I’d have to think they’re both better than this.

  11. In my humble opinion, I think the FO messed up when it got rid of, if I may say it that way, Dee Gordon, Matt Kemp, Hanley Ramirez,Yes Hanley and Juan Urible. To make all these changes to a division champion is like tearing the heart out of this happy go lucky team.
    It’s not over yet, but if they don’t get back to the postseason, IMO, THIS is the reason why.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Hanley is a man without a position to play, akin to Guerrero. Only Hanley is owed a little under $69 million. No thanks. Kemp they got out from under as he has health issues. No worries. Gordon brought us a young Hernandez, who may stick around for a few years and plays anywhere.

      • crash24now says:

        On the other hand, without Uribe, our 3b backup options were Callaspo and Guerrero. Now that Callaspo is gone, our 3b backup is Guerrero. Shuddering….

        • Dodger4life says:

          It’s just a hunch, but I think Utley is gonna be a nice asset.

          • crash24now says:

            Utley can hit. However, the last time he played third base was 2002 in AAA. The Phillies moved him back to second base the following year because he made too many errors at third base.

    • kahliforni says:

      obf, I agree with a lot of what you say.

  12. Dodger4life says:

    In 2013 Puig hit a single every 3.1 at bats. It’s currently at 3.9. If memory serves me right in the early part of 2013 Puig could reach any ball thrown to him with ease. He would hit balls to both sides of the field and seemingly managed to place them between the infielders at will.

    20.1 at bats per HR – 2013
    26.4 at bats per HR – Currently

    In 2013 Yasiel attempted to steal 19 bases and he was caught 8 times.
    Currently, Yasiel has attempted to steal 6 bases and he’s been caught 3 times.

    Puig hit .319 in 382 at bats in 2013.
    He’s currently at 264 at bats with an AVG of .254.

    My thoughts are that Puig needs to trim down, if he wants to have any chance at someday tapping into his full potential. Which I believe on a baseball scale, could be unlimited.

    • crash24now says:

      IMHO – Ballplayers today, and Puig is no exception, are paid so much that they should approach baseball as a year round job. Which means that in the off season, they need to keep their bodies in tip top condition. Puig has failed at that job.

  13. trublu4ever says:

    Damn,Lamb is a lefty….we are screwed!

    • crash24now says:

      No worries, we’ve got Puig, Hernandez, Ellis, and, and, and,…oh wait, we’re screwed!

      • trublu4ever says:

        They were talking about us on MLB Network last night….and, guess what? From day to day, nobody knows who is playing and, that makes for lack of consistency. We’ve been saying that since Dumb-Ass took over!

  14. kahliforni says:

    Read this yesterday and it blew my very-easily-blown mind: The Dodgers’ record over the past 91 games is 45-46. That’s a pretty darn big sample size. Donnie can’t even get this bunch to play .500 ball.

    • crash24now says:

      Very interesting. The Dodgers came out of the gate in April red hot and were 22-10 after the May 12th game against the Marlins. Those first 22 wins included winning streaks of seven games, four games, and five games (the five game winning streak ended May 12th). What happened?

      Not that I want to place the blame on any specific players, but I will anyway. Three hitters were super hot in those first 32 games and have cooled off considerably since. Those three being Pederson, Guerrero, and Van Slyke. Of the first two, we could say that MLB pitchers have figured them out and the hitters have not been able to make the corresponding adjustments. I’m not sure what’s up with Van Slyke; I wonder if his back is still bothering him.

      The following BA/OBP/SLG/OPS lines show how hot they were up through May 12th:

      Pederson .255/.422/.582/1.004
      Guerrero .353/.393/.784/1.177
      Van Slyke .373/.414/.608/1.022

      Now what have they done after May 12th?

      Pederson .201/.333/.395/.728
      Guerrero .188/.204/.333/.538
      Van Slyke .175/.289/.282/.571

      • nedisajerk says:

        No excuse for Pederson to slump like this. Guerrero didn’t get much playing time and SVS hasn’t been the same since he got hurt.

        • crash24now says:

          Guerrero has had 142 plate appearances since May 12th. So, yeah, that’s not a lot, but perhaps sufficient to say he’s not doing well. He definitely has been given less playing time than Pederson, so Guerrero has less chances to figure out the adjustments.

  15. nedisajerk says:

    I would though when Kendrick on ther DL Puig would bat 2nd and why don’t you want Puig batting 2nd?

    I post this that someone got a stat lines of .325/.393/.513/.906 in the 2nd spots guess who it is?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=puigya01&year=2015&t=b

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=puigya01&year=Career&t=b

    Puig has been hot so why not moved Puig back in that 2nd hole while his career numbers in that spot is .310/.385/.521/.906 in 727 PA’s. That’s the most PA’s in any spot in the order and the 2nd highest career BA than the .359 in the clean up spot.

  16. crash24now says:

    Lineup

    Rollins SS
    Puig RF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Turner 3B
    Van Slyke LF
    Utley 2B
    Ellis C
    Hernandez CF
    Wood P

    Not sure why Hernandez is at the bottom of the lineup against a lefty. Not sure why Van Slyke is in the five hole, aka black hole.

  17. nedisajerk says:

    James Wagner ✔ @JamesWagnerWP

    In Game 124, the Nats have their entire projected starting eight everyday players in the same lineup for the first time.
    Retweeted by Bill Shaikin

    Hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder how many different lineup the Nats have used?

  18. The Beav says:

    So Donnie’s used 102 different line-ups in 123 games. Shocking. Donnie never can settle on anything. He tinkers and tinkers and even when he comes up with a combination that works one night, its still different the next. I realize injuries force his hand once in awhile, but the regulars that aren’t injured still bat up and down the line-up. His right-handed line-ups against lefties are probably the most asinine of all.

    Lopes, Russell, Smith, Garvey, Cey, Baker, Monday, Yeager. How come after 38 years I can still rattle this off the top of my head?

    Inconsistent line-ups bring inconsistent results. No continuity. No one knowing their rolls. No one can get on a roll.

    Donnie never has and never will understand this concept.

  19. crash24now says:

    John Lamb is making his third start in the big leagues. He was very successful last year in AAA. Age 25, and as Tru noted, a lefty.

  20. The Beav says:

    Another reason why this team has to play station to station. Batting AGon third. The third hitter should not only have power, but speed (reference Kemp, Matt in his heyday.) Agon should be hitting 4th or 5th ala Garvey/Cey.

    Let’s compare some more to ’77.

    We have no leadoff hitter that can steal bases like Lopes. Last Lopes-like leadoff hitter we had was Furcal. Had some pop. Had some speed. Rollins of 4-5 years ago may have been all that, but he’s not now.

    Donnie never understood even when we had Gordon that the 2nd hitter in the line-up needs to know how to handle the bat. Russell in his prime didn’t strikeout much, hit behind the runner, knew how to hit and run and above all, knew how to bat behind a base stealer. I’ve a suspicion that this Peraza kid could be that hitter if given a chance. He handles the bat well, doesn’t strike out much, and doesn’t swing for the fences.

    In a perfect world, Puig would be Reggie. In an imperfect world, maybe Seager could be in this roll.

    IMO 4-5 should be Grandal/AGon. If the top 3 are getting on consistently, AGon still has more than ample opportunities to drive in runs without fucking up an inning hitting into a double play.

    Turner or Puig vs. Baker 6th? I don’t think Turner’s numbers are sustainable as he ages. Puig’s an enigma.

    Out of the rest you have to find a leadoff hitter and 7 and 8. Joc’s gotta be 7th or 8th because he’s sure no leadoff hitter. Turner probably hits 7th because the rest of the line-up is stacked.That leaves finding a LFer to be a lead-off hitter.

    I have no idea what my point was anymore… Well its late afternoon here and what the hell does it matter anyway?

    In conclusion though, Donnie’s an idiot.

    • crash24now says:

      Nice write up. One part of OBF’s comment way up above that I agree with is that Gordon was our clear leadoff hitter. Of course, last season his effectiveness was waning late in the season. He has been very consistent this season. We have no one today that fills that role.

    • crash24now says:

      It seems to me that Kendrick fills the role of a #2 hitter. He’s always hitting towards right field, and consistently gets the bat on the ball. Unfortunately, it took Donnie BaseBall until Game #75 to figure that out. Prior to that, he thought Kendrick was a clean up hitter.

  21. crash24now says:

    Countdown to Mattingly’s Demise

    There are just twelve series left, two of which are head-to-head against the Giants. Total of 39 games left, seven against the Giants and 32 against other teams. Obviously the two series against the Giants will be crucial.

    Looking through the schedule and comparing it to the Giants’ schedule shows me one glaring opportunity. This series against the Reds, starting in just over an hour, is the Dodgers big opportunity. The Giants are playing a strong Cubs team, while the Dodgers are playing a weak Reds team. The rest of the schedule features no other time when the Dodgers have this type of opportunity.

    If we do not increase our lead over the next three days, winning the division will be mighty tough. The Dodgers need to win the series, maybe even sweep the series, while hoping the Cubs beat up on the Giants.

    If not, the Dodgers will have to take it to the Giants during those seven head-to-head matchups. Otherwise, Donnie is doomed.

    Now that’s something to look forward to – the beginning of the end.

  22. crash24now says:

    Grandal has a sore left shoulder. Oh, duh, no wonder he can’t hit recently.

    That reminds me. Stan Conte is still a Dodger! We’ve been complaining about the training staff ever since Colletti and Conte conspired to bring on Jason Schmidt from the Giants.

    Fire Stan Conte!

  23. Can’t wait to see Wood the whip again tonight.

  24. The Beav says:

    From the Saxon twitter feed on the side up above: Don Mattingly hopeful Dodgers will respond to Clayton Kershaw, from Dylan Hernandez.

    Why does Donnie have to be hopeful they’ll respond to Kersh? Donnie must know that he’s too weak a leader for the team to respond to him. Why is it always something external with him? All he does is pass the buck. A leader doesn’t do that.

    And that’s why Donnie ain’t no leader.

    • JhallWally says:

      Spot on my brother… Dildon is not going to take this team to a championship…… Heck, he might not even win the Division….. At least, he will be gone when they fail.

  25. koufax1963 says:

    Well nice to see 1-0 Dodgers, but Gonzo, Turner,SVS, Utley stopped it from being a big inning. Hitting woes continue?

  26. crash24now says:

    So far so good. But we need lots more runs because the bullpen will be here in the seventh inning.

  27. koufax1963 says:

    oh No, Don Mattingly has his brain churning, lets take out Wood, just 4 hits, no runs, 88 pitches, with two outs in the inning.
    Am I missing something? and Hatcher fails !

  28. trublu4ever says:

    The SVS for Ethier scenario is still not working! Can’t you see that yet, Donnie?!

  29. trublu4ever says:

    Hey, Beav…..I see they even deleted your post saying they deleted your post! 🙂

  30. trublu4ever says:

    It’s harder to watch everyday!

  31. trublu4ever says:

    I take it we can’t report the abuse of the censor to anyone?

  32. Well the losing streak is over.

  33. Dodger4life says:

    Cain getting knocked around up North. 5-0 Cubs, make that 6-0 Cubs.

  34. trublu4ever says:

    I think Donnie is the censor so, yes, when he goes, all will be well.

  35. Dodger4life says:

    Doubtful since the censor is most likely one of us…Donnie will still be shown the door though.

  36. oldbrooklynfan says:

    After noting this morning that Giants lost last night after a gallant fight, it gave me a relaxed feeling which I hope it last until the lead is shorten again.

  37. kahliforni says:

    I applaud the win…but once again, it’s a matter of a couple bombs and back-to-back doubles. Still no semblance of an organized, well thought out, purposeful “small ball” approach to manufacturing runs. Home runs are rare in the post season. So are Dodger victories.

  38. JhallWally says:

    It is more than discomforting that our posts are being censored. And, deleted by an unknown entity…

    Whoever is censoring our posts should at least have the ethical wherewithal to let us know who you are and what the ground rules are…

    Whoever you are, come out and let us know who you are and what in the heck you are trying to achieve..

    • The Beav says:

      Not only are they being deleted Wally, some of the content is being changed within the posts to things we didn’t say originally.

      • trublu4ever says:

        I still say we can move our group to Facebook and make it closed. That way we can see who wants to join and the group leader (I nominate Dodger4life) can let them in…..you can set it up to use your same name here or your real name…..whatever you choose. Then, we can swear or say nasty things about Donnie if we so please.

  39. crash24now says:

    Only seven hits in total. Not exactly a breakout game. If not for the two home runs, we’d still be playing.

  40. Dodger4life says:

    Jharel Cotton last night

    • crash24now says:

      Youngsters may help the bullpen in September. Seager may give some relief to Rollins and Turner in September.

      Which makes me wonder – does Guerrero’s stupid “I have to play in the MLB” mean that he has to be on the playoff roster? I would much rather have somebody else, maybe Seager, on the playoff roster than Guerrero.

  41. crash24now says:

    Lineup

    Rollins SS
    Puig RF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Turner 3B
    Van Slyke LF
    Utley 2B
    Ellis C
    Hernandez CF
    Anderson P

    It must be late August. Donnie’s using the same lineup two days in a row.

  42. Dodger4life says:

    I started up another blog, albeit on wordpress as well…if everyone decides this is too much we can jump over.

    https://dembumsbluetoybox.wordpress.com/

  43. trublu4ever says:

    What does “your comment is awaiting moderation” mean?

  44. A little batting practice.

  45. zonadodger says:

    wow…risp….bases juiced…no runs lol

  46. JhallWally says:

    Woo-Hoo, win streak!!!!! Go Dodgers!!!!!

  47. The Beav says:

    Paging Bear, Wally, Eric, Shad, Sparks, Collie, VL4 and anyone else I forgotten to come on over to the new site. I’m not any kinder and gentler, but you can’t have everything.

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