Bad Bullpen Bites Bums

For those of us who though Joel Peralta was bad, meet Jim Johnson. Their statistics as Dodger relievers:

WHIP   ERA   FIP    IP     Name
1.600   5.40   5.60  20   Joel Peralta
3.818 29.45 10.19  3.2  Jim Johnson

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122 Responses to Bad Bullpen Bites Bums

  1. Dodger4life says:

    Yodl-AY-ee, oh-LAY-ee, oh-LAY-ee]

    I got a bale of flour, Lord I got a bucket of lard.
    I got a bale of flour, Lord I got a bucket of lard.
    I ain’t got no blues; got chickens in my back yard.

    [Yodl-AY-ee, LAY-EE-ay, dee-yodl-AY-ee]

  2. crash24now says:

    Nice song, D4. Somehow it is appropriate to the aftermath of last night’s game.

    I blame both the front office (FAZ) and Donnie. The front office got snookered on picking up Jim Johnson on the Alex Wood trade. Donnie left Johnson in way too long last night. Way way too long.

    • Dodger4life says:

      The song has to be what was going through Donnie’s head last night at the very least.

      Randy Wood is no winner.

      The rest of the others, aren’t even Randy Wood!

      Who’s Randy Wood?

  3. crash24now says:

    Meanwhile, Howie Kendrick has injured his hamstring. The Dodgers, for some unknown reason, will sit on this injury and try to wait it out. Rather than calling up some help from AAA immediately and placing Kendrick on the 15 day DL, they will sit and stew. They may even ask Kendrick to try to play on it again later this week. Then the injury will get worse, and he will be out for the rest of the year.

    That’s the Dodgers way.

  4. crash24now says:

    When you go on the road to play a bad team and a good team, you should expect at least a 3-3 record for that road trip. To get a 2-4 result, especially when some of the four losses were from games that seemed winnable, well that’s less than satisfactory.

  5. The Beav says:

    Hope the FO is taking note of Donnie’s performance.

    Shit, next year let’s get rid of the old baggage and let the kids play everywhere. When they have a bad game we can at least attribute it to youth and learning. This PVL shit is old and hackneyed and doesn’t work. At least not for the Dodgers.

  6. trublu4ever says:

    I would DFA both of them ASAP….along with the idiot, Mattingly who keeps putting them in a close game!

  7. crash24now says:

    Question: Would Mike Bolsinger be effective coming out of the bullpen?

  8. messagebear says:

    I mentioned attitude in an earlier post, with the suggestion that our team, with the exception of a couple individuals, doesn’t project what’s required for a real winner. I think that greatly reflects the manager. In our case I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that we’re in a really poor division. Consequently you can become lackadaisical playing day to day just because you’re four games in the lead – so what’s to get excited about if the team lets down at key points of a game, or even in general. I get the feeling that from the front office on down nobody really gets excited, and nobody chews ass, over simple mistakes, less than 100% effort, or the lack of simple “heart” that our team shows in most games. To me, one just needs to take a look at the Pirates to see the difference of somebody that is playing with some fire in the belly versus someone just going through the motions no matter what.

    • crash24now says:

      Goes back to Donnie’s experience as a player. The Yankees are a storied franchise: They have won 27 World Series, 40 pennants, and had 51 playoff appearances over the past 102 years. During Donnie’s playing time (all with the Yankees), the Yankees won zero World Series, zero pennants, and had just one playoff appearance in 14 years.

      He is a Loser with a capital “L”!

    • koufax1963 says:

      Bingo Bear! Last nights game showed it. When a Dodgers rally is about to happen somebody makes baserunning blunder to kill it. The pirates keep hitting, get the sac fly to get the run, make the two out hits. Hoping that Septemeber may stimulate some enthusiasm in the boys in blue or they are probably through!

  9. crash24now says:

    Lineup

    Rollins ss
    Peraza 2b
    Van Slyke 1b
    Puig rf
    Hernandez cf
    Callaspo 3b
    Guerrero lf
    Ellis c
    Anderson p

    I think we just hit an all-time low. Well, at least for 2015.

  10. Dodger4life says:

    I’m gonna hitch up my mule and take a holt of my line
    I’m gonna hitch up my mule and take a holt of my line
    I can’t be bothered with all those old hard times.
    .
    New day, new city, new game…

  11. Dodger4life says:

    Talk to me, Vinny! Talk to me…

  12. kahliforni says:

    Wood was the reason for all the bad last night. He is supposed to pitch deep into games. If the Dodgers want five innings, they have Bolsinger, for Pete’s sake, whoever Pete is… The FO thought they’d be shrewd in the Spring with pitching, and again, at the deadline. But you get what you get. The bullpen is still a mess, a challenge even for a seasoned manager. I predict Price and Greinke will be wearing Dodger Blue in 2016 and Mattingly will not. Can’t see Bundy, either. His job at 3rd base has been minor league at best. The FO knows what needs to be done. They have eyes, as we all do.

  13. nedisajerk says:

    Aug. 10, 1979: Don Sutton sets the franchise record with his 50th shutout, a 9-0 win over the Giants. The shutout breaks a tie with Don Drysdale.

    Aug. 10, 1995: The Dodgers are forced to forfeit their game against St. Louis at Dodger Stadium when fans refuse to stop throwing promotional souvenir baseballs onto the Dodger Stadium field.

    I actually remember that game 20 yrs ago.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199508100.shtml

    Dodger fans received souvenir baseballs when entering the stadium and in the bottom of the ninth, following the ejection of Raul Mondesi and Tommy LaSorda began hurling them onto the field. The umpires awarded a forfeit win to the Cardinals over the Dodgers.

  14. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Sometimes you got to wait a long time for the outs.

  15. kahliforni says:

    Another five-inning pitching performance.

  16. The Beav says:

    Nice consistency by Howell in starting his late season swoon.

    Good thing that the ballplayers of today are just mercenaries of the almighty dollar and will play anywhere given enough of it because for the life of me, I can’t see a reason anyone would want to be on this team next year.

  17. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Like waiting all night for Crawford to hit one out.

  18. griz says:

    Right now it’s pretty hard to envision our boys beating a playoff caliber team. I’m just hoping our pitching staff will break out of it’s slump sooner rather than later.

  19. JhallWally says:

    Well, it seems all of our pitchers are blowing up this week… So, why not Anderson.. Hopefully we are done with that and it is out of the system… Pathetic lose last night. Puig needs to go!! He sucks!!!

    And, he is clubhouse cancer!!!!!

    • JhallWally says:

      I would rather have and outfield of Crawford/VanSlyke, Pederson, Ethier from left to right. I would sit Puig down for an extended period until he finally gets it. He is not all that good…

      • The Beav says:

        Hey my brother.

        Do you think its pitchers having caught up with him plus he doesn’t have much baseball sense? Or do you think management just sapped the life out of him and he doesn’t have much baseball sense?

        • JhallWally says:

          WaSup’ my brother? I think he is a knucklehead that is not coachable. And, to answer your question, I don’t think he has alot of baseball sense.. Pitchers have obviously caught up with him for that very reason… I don’t think our management sapped the life out of him. I think he is encouragible and just doesn’t get it…. He needs to sit for and extended period.. I would send his ass to AAA… Give him a dose of humility…

  20. JhallWally says:

    This team is amazingly bad at hitting with RISP!!

    • The Beav says:

      That seems to be the all or nothing mentality of Donnie and McGwire. 3-run dingers or nothing. All too often its nothing.

      And another thing, I know a lot of people think he’s all-world, including FO and coaching, but if this team ever expects to get away from station to station offense, they have to get rid of the Clydesdale in the middle of the line-up. You simply can’t have the slowest runner on the team hitting third. No wonder the 4-5-6 hitters can’t drive anyone home. Trade AGon over the offseason and go with someone that can run the bases at a faster pace than grandma with her walker. I’d surmise that the increase in speed would allow the heart of the order to drive in enough runs to make up for his bat.

  21. oldbrooklynfan says:

    With Greinke going tonight and Kershaw tomorrow night, things could start to look a little better.

  22. griz says:

    Interesting point, Beav, but I think your best hitter bats third and right now that’s Gonzalez. However, Turner coming back soon should take care of that problem. Still, he’s also our best rbi man and if the rest of the lineup was performing up to Ethier’s level, you could consider batting him fifth. But right now there does not seem to be a whole lot of options and you need to get him to the plate. Two of the guys that would normally bat before him are out.

    • The Beav says:

      Honestly Griz, I think this year’s a lost cause. No timely hitting, no bullpen, and nothing after Kersh & Greinke. They’ve proved time and again they can’t play consistent baseball, nor fair well against good teams.

      I’m for a complete overhaul. If the FO would just be honest with the fans and themselves and say we need 2-3 years to rebuild, I can live with that and what comes with it. I’d go with that new kid at second and Seager at short next year. Grandal’s young. Turner seems to be a late bloomer. Find a couple young OFers that don’t either have their head up their ass or K half the time, throw some young arms in the rotation and have at it. Maybe we’d actually have a young dominant team in 3 years, but have the money to keep it together unlike KC. What they’re doing isn’t working and hasn’t worked since McCourt took over.

      The overhaul should also mean the entire coaching staff and as Bear says, the team attitude also. Otherwise no changes on the field are going to matter.

  23. griz says:

    Beav, I don’t know if I’d personally be brave enough GM for a complete overhaul, but the results on the field support your conclusion.

  24. messagebear says:

    I agree with Beav’s take on it. It’s probably too early to judge the value of Peraza, but I would rather have gotten two or three more of what would be considered other teams’ #1 or #2 prospects rather than a Latos and a Wood, and certainly Johnson, the “closer”. It would be more exciting to watch a team of hopefuls that are putting out 110% than the lackadaisical play of most of our 25.

  25. crash24now says:

    MLB teams by payroll:

    http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

    I knew the Dodgers were #1. I did not realize how much higher they are than everyone else. Especially in the NL:

    Dodgers $305M
    Giants $177M
    Nationals $164M
    Phillies $138M
    Cubs $129M
    Cards $129M

    Somebody on this list is not getting the bang for the buck, and I’m not talking about the Phillies. You would think for $305 million, you would have a great bullpen, a great lineup, and starting pitchers that go eight deep.

    • messagebear says:

      Last time I looked, I understood that about $80 million of our payroll is actually expended on players who are now on other teams, the cost to us of trading them, but then you have to give up something in order to arrive at the noteworthy team that the front office has put together for us now.

  26. crash24now says:

    Lineup

    Rollins SS
    Callaspo 3B
    Gonzalez 1B
    Ethier LF
    Grandal C
    Puig RF
    Pederson CF
    Hernandez 2B
    Greinke P

    Desperation has set in – Callaspo is our #2 hitter.

  27. Dodger4life says:

    Rah! Rah! Rah!

  28. trublu4ever says:

    I see Peralta was placed on the DL…..saying he has pain in the neck. Well, duh! 😊

  29. The Beav says:

    Nice reward for Peraza tripling and walking in his debut – the bench.

    Gotta love Donnie.

  30. oldbrooklynfan says:

    GOOD FOR PUIG!!!

  31. crash24now says:

    Puiger is hitting tonight.

  32. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I wish he would let Yimi stay in as far as he can go.

  33. crash24now says:

    Looks like Yimi is what the doctor ordered. At least for tonight.

  34. JhallWally says:

    Well, Puig basically carried the day.. I hope he gets his head on straight and figures it out.. It was pretty much Puig, Greinke, and the bullpen for a change…. Maybe a good sign.. I hope so….

    Hopefully the rest of the team shows up tonight…

  35. JhallWally says:

    Interesting that Harper did not play last night against Greinke…

  36. Dodger4life says:

    Greinke be throwing some of the best baseball of his career.
    .
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/greinza01.shtml
    .
    0.865 WHIP

  37. oldbrooklynfan says:

    “Day to day” is a good way to describe the Dodgers right now.
    We have to take them one day at a time, I think, right now.
    It’s a good time to have Kershaw make a start, as we try to win another one.

  38. Dodger4life says:

    The Astros game will be on soon.

    Go Astros!!

  39. Dodger4life says:

    Dodgers lineup:
    Crawford LF
    Hernandez SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Grandal C
    Puig RF
    Callaspo 3B
    Pederson CF
    Peraza 2B
    Kershaw P

  40. koufax1963 says:

    Sorry but crawford should not be taking time from Dre. I knew it would happen, but it shouldn’t, but Carl: Prove me wrong!
    and now putting Crawford as lead off, and J-roll out, oh My isnt Donnie being clever or is this some FO move as dictated.?
    GO DODGERS!

  41. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Unbelievable.~~Crawford going to third.

  42. The Beav says:

    Nice AB by Joc.

  43. koufax1963 says:

    maybe I should speak poorly of crawford more often, he is RBI guy now!

  44. The Beav says:

    Kersh gave it a good run. Still pisses me off Hanley effed up his perfect game.

    • JhallWally says:

      I agree… But that goes back on Dildon… He should have put in a defensive replacement for the ninth inning… I blame Dildon more than Hanley…

  45. The Beav says:

    You know who needs to sit is AGon. All he’s been doing lately is striking out.

  46. crash24now says:

    Kershaw’s going to have to finish this off himself. He sure isn’t getting much help from the offense.

  47. crash24now says:

    Every Day Dre with the Little League Home Run!

  48. koufax1963 says:

    kershaw should have finished, professional courtesy

  49. crash24now says:

    Two game winning streak! Now that Greinke and Kershaw are done, what next? In other words, how do we win without them?

  50. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Here we go again. Latos…..Wood….Anderson……

  51. nedisajerk says:

    MLB History Made: 15 Home Teams Are Winners On Same Day

    On Wednesday, I saw an interesting stat on MLB.com; on Tuesday, all 15 home teams won their game on the same day, which is the first time in league’s history. According to Elias Sports Bureau, 12 home team won on the same day on May 23, 1914.

    That is an amazing feat considering there is no way of even predicting when it would happen.

    The teams included are: the Blue Jays, Rays, Indians, Royals, White Sox, Twins and Mariners and in the National League, the Mets, Marlins, Cubs, Cardinals, D-Backs, Padres, Dodgers and Giants.

    Toronto 4, Oakland 2

    Blue Jays won their 9th straight game.

    Tampa Bay 2, Atlanta 0

    Rays scored two runs late to shut out the Braves, and win their 3rd straight game.

    Cleveland 5, New York 4 – 16 Inn

    Indians failed to hold on to an early 2-0 lead over the Yankees and the game went into extras tied at 2-2. In the 10th, the Yankees took a 4-2 lead, and the Indians responded with two more and then in the 16th inning they scored the winning run. Took extra time to be apart of history.

    Kansas City 6, Detroit 1

    Royals won their 5th straight game and lead the Central Division by 12 games.

    Chicago 3, Los Angeles 0

    White Sox received great pitching performance from Carlos Rodon ( 7IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 11K) and shut out the Angels.

    Minnesota 3, Texas 2

    Twins score two runs in the bottom of the 8th and one in the ninth to walk-off the Rangers.

    Seattle 6, Baltimore 5

    Mariners led 5-2, but allowed the Orioles to tie the game with three runs in the top of the eighth, but Austin Jackson singled in the bottom of the 10th to walk-off the Orioles.

    Miami 5, Boston 4 – 10 Inn

    Marlins battle back from a 4-0 deficit, tie the game in the bottom of the ninth and walk-off the Red Sox with a run in the bottom of the tenth.

    New York 4, Colorado 0

    Mets continued their recent dominance as Matt Harvey won his 11th game with an outstanding performance (8 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K) against the Rockies.

    Chicago 6, Milwaukee 3

    Cubs continued their winning ways as they scored early and held on to defeat the Brewers and keep a strong hold on a Wild Card spot.

    St. Louis 4, Pittsburgh 3

    Cardinals won their 72nd game as they battled back with three runs in the bottom of the fifth and hold on to beat the Pirates and extend their first place lead.

    Arizona 13, Philadelphia 1

    D-Backs score 11 runs in the second inning and cruise to a victory over the Phillies.

    San Diego 11, Cincinnati 6

    Padres scored all 11 runs on the Reds in the first three innings and their rookie right hander picked up his first MLB victory.

    Los Angeles 5, Washington 0

    Dodgers Zack Greinke was nearly unhittable as he tossed six scoreless innings against the Nationals, allowing just six hits, with a walk and six strikeouts to notch his 12th victory on the season.

    San Francisco 3, Houston 1

    Giants starter Madison Bumgarner pitched a complete game over the Astros, allowing a run on five hits, with out walking a batter and 12 strikeouts.

  52. griz says:

    We got what we’ve come to expect from our two aces. In all fairness, Anderson has been solid. Now it’s time for the new guys to step. Avilan has been OK, but those other three need to turn it up a notch.

  53. griz says:

    Off to the coast of California to see a nephew get hitched. You guys and gals hold the fort for a week. What’s really scary is I’ll be going to Holland not long after that, but I guess this day and age I’ll be able to get the scores over there easily enough.

  54. JhallWally says:

    Woo-Hoo, win streak!!!

  55. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Unbelievable that we’re still in first place by 3.5 games. It hasn’t been too good for both the Dodgers and our rival Giants, recently. I look forward to the coming days.
    GO DODGERS!!!!

  56. trublu4ever says:

    Yay….I’m finally back on line….no more having to post from my phone! GO DODGERS!

  57. crash24now says:

    Make it stop, already. Guess our lead will drop to 2 1/2 games.

  58. The Beav says:

    How is it that Latos, Wood and Johnson all were pitching fairly well until they put on a Dodger uniform? It can’t be coincidence that this happens more often than not with acquisitions they’ve made over the years. Few exceptions being Greinke, Grandal and Gonzales, so what is it? They could’ve gone out and gotten Price, Cuerto and Chapman and I guarantee as soon as they put on the uni, they’d have sucked too.

    I think bear was really onto something with the attitude thing. There’s no aura of a winner in this clubhouse. No sense of urgency. Its too laid back. Its too bubble machine. Its too rally banana. Something needs to change this off season.

    • trublu4ever says:

      The first change should be manager and ALL coaches! I think we ooze their lackluster method of operation!

    • JhallWally says:

      I agree Beav!! I have for the past 3-4years… This team needs a major shake up… They don’t have any heart or grit. They’re just collecting paychecks…. Dildon and Honeycutt need to go.. Along with McGuire. With all this talent, they should be doing much better…

  59. JhallWally says:

    Well, so far, our acquistions have failed. Latos has been a bust. Avilan sucked last night. Maybe they more time to settle in.. Geez!!

  60. Dodger4life says:

    The Giants are in the midst of a 4 game set with Washington, then play the Cards twice, (home and away), another 4 game set at Pittsburgh and play the Cubs too. Then start the final month with the Dodgers.

    One, or more of the above mentioned teams will miss the playoffs. Yet, all are fighting for it…

  61. koufax1963 says:

    Its a dangerous time of year, these “out of it” teams, now have hungry, motivated AAA players, as far as Reds go they still have the phillips, hamilton, frazer and Votto too, so no team is easy. The dodgers just have not created a bull pen, most sucessful teams have their guy matched to an inning, but with the inconsistency of the entire bull pen, I understand why donnie cant pick a pitcher that will get the job done. Fucking Baez as example, was stellar a couple of days ago 2 Innings scoreless, last night not only got hit but his fielding just blew the game.
    Inconsistent hitting still is the mantra, and with kendrick out, any consistency there is gone. August is the Month the dodgers need to separate from the gnats, but that is not happening, so dont give this “wait till we go head to head with gnats”, they will cream us, we haven’t won a series yet, been swept twice, and with September, knowing a widcard will not come from the west, the gnats will slide down the chimney, slice open the screen door and eventually just blow the dodgers away.
    I hope not, but it seems our trade acquisitions are not delivering and our hitting is just random. oh and did I mention pitching.
    Guess Im just damn deflated, like a tom brady football, after the gnats punked the nationals and repeat, wash out , rinse of the Dodgers line up.

  62. trublu4ever says:

    Please, please, please…..someone…..new thread ….this one got very depressing!

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