Where Farhan’s Stash is Kept

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Farhan Zaidi and Andrew Friedman have been busy identifying and obtaining second tier players to flesh out the Dodger’s depth chart. Eric Stephen has the story at his True Blue LA site.

All the new players added to the 40 man roster, except pitchers Joel Peralta and Juan Nicasio, have options remaining and can be sent to the newly rebranded Oklahoma City Dodgers.

According to Zaidi, this strategy will make it easier to obtain impact players later on, maybe even during the Winter Meetings that start this week.

In September, the Oklahoma City MiLB franchise was acquired by Mandalay Baseball, which is a joint venture between ownership of the Los Angeles Dodgers and an investor group led by Mandalay Entertainment Chairman and CEO Peter Guber, who is also a minority owner of the Dodgers.

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263 Responses to Where Farhan’s Stash is Kept

  1. 32and53fan says:

    It will be easier to judge the stats of the AAA players of the Oklahoma City Dodgers where the 1200 feet elevation is closer to the 267 feet above sea level at Dodger Stadium. The 5,140 elevation and warm summer temperatures at the Albuquerque Isotopes ballpark has skewed the numbers of Dodger prospects for years.

    • JhallWally says:

      Well, even if we are not serious, or we don’t get Lester, we will drive up the price by being considered a possible destination… It could be just enough of a ploy to keep the G’nats out of the running… I like it……

      • oldbrooklynfan says:

        Wow, that is quite a way of looking at it. Could be. But I was thinkiing that the Dodgers just realized what they had to offer for him, based on what the Phillies want for Hammels. Maybe they’d give up more for Lester.

        • crash24now says:

          Sign Lester to the FA deal, then we don’t need Hamels. Then trade Eithier and/or Crawford away for a catcher or shortstop that can hit.

  2. zonadodger says:

    Agree here 32

  3. crash24now says:

    The other big deal the Dodgers are looking at…Andrew Miller, LHP reliever 4 yrs for $40 million? I can imagine what OTD thinks about that… let’s ask Brandon League critics.

    Not to say Andrew Miller is Brandon League, but who’s to say he won’t be in a couple years?

  4. zonadodger says:

    Big mistake trading Kemp to Pads..Come on..Got to keep Kemp

  5. crash24now says:

    Oh, come on! Yes, we would like a switch hitting catcher. No, we don’t want to trade Kemp. Besides, Grandal is not even that good of a hitter. He’s a 700 OPS hitter.

    #KeepKemp

  6. 32and53fan says:

    Maybe there’s some personality clashes that we don’t know about. Even if there are, you don’t give up the best righthanded power hitter on the team after losing Hanley. Kemp is finally healthy and may get back to some of his 2011 numbers. Keep Kemp…unless there is some absolutely killer deal to be had.

  7. JhallWally says:

    Please, don’t trade Kemp… He is going to bust out and be a very productive player… We need his bat…… Crawford and/or Ethier need to go away before Kemp… Preferably both… We inherited Crawfords bad contract to get AGon…. The Dodgers just got stupid when they signed the Ethier contract… Nedcompoop at his best….

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I agree, they should try to trade Ethier/Crawford before they make any deal for Kemp. Right now Kemp is the biggest chip but it’s best to be cautious.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      This team is usually offensively challenged anyway. Take away Kemp and this team will be unwatchable when its their turn to hit.

      Of course with no TV outlets, most people won’t be watching anyway. 🙂

  8. crash24now says:

    Ethier wants to play. Oh, boo hoo. Actually, I give him credit for whining about it during the off-season and not during the season.

    #KeepKemp

  9. Dodger4life says:

    OTD is thinking positive for a change
    .
    By positively thinking…
    .
    Rah! Rah! Rah!
    .
    #KeepKemp
    .
    I refuse to try and spoil this party…
    .
    CARRY ON!

  10. 32and53fan says:

    The Dodgers today claimed catcher Ryan Lavarnway from the @RedSox and designated catcher Drew Butera for assignment.

    Why?

    • crash24now says:

      He’d be useful in a benches clearing brawl 🙂 He’s 6’4″, 240lbs, compared to scrawny Butera at 6’1″, 200lbs.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      Maybe everybody left early today and Ned needed something to do.

    • 32and53fan says:

      At first, I thought the fact that Butera was out of options was part of the decision. Now, I found out that Lavarnway is also out of options. At 27, he is four years younger than Butera. He also plays first base.

      Maybe Poindexter and the professor are using their knowledge of chemistry to add to the roster.

  11. koufax1963 says:

    I actually find rosenthal’s “gossip” tends to pan out. I really hope he is wrong. Trading Kemp, especially to a team the dodgers play frequently, will be a Beast Bite every game we play vs. Kemp.
    I am not really understanding the think tank now.We will not be an intimidating offense w/o Kemp; of course, the dodgers were not really intimidating anybody offesively last year with Kemp, Go ask the Cardinals! It was kemp that saved Game 2 of the NLDS. I just think he is healthy now, ready to reclaim leadership duties and cheerleading by example on the field. and what will the kids do with their #27 Kemp jerseys??? yikes. bringing back memeories of Piazza going.

  12. lbirken says:

    I don’t think Andre was “whining”. He was asked a question and he answered honestly. He did not seem to harbor any ill will and I believe he would have felt it all worthwhile if the Dodgers had made it to the WS. If everything were equal, it would seem Andre the most likely outfielder to go since the manager has already made it clear who he wants in the lineup everyday. I actually think Andre could be a good pinch hitter but it would not be fair to put him in that position if he believes he can play every day somewhere. The task is finding the right taker. I too would not trade Kemp for the reasons mentioned but I would understand that business side of things if the Dodgers did make a deal involving Kemp. I would not like to see him in another Western division uniform but what if that is the best deal?

    As for the Dodgers picking up a backup catcher to replace Butera, I really can’t say much since I don’t know anything about the player. Will this really make a big difference in how well the team does?

  13. zonadodger says:

    Not impressed so far lol…..Make a real move….All these leftovers

  14. zonadodger says:

    I will say glad they didn’t go 4 yrs on Andrew Miller…Just my opinion

    • nedisajerk says:

      I don’t even think he’s that good even though he has been good since the Red Sox pulled a Gagne in the bullpen after being a failed starter for the Tigers and also was picked ahead of Kershaw.

      • oldbrooklynfan says:

        It looks like the Yankees are still getting what they want. Maybe the Dodgers should make a move to get Robertson. Who knows, maybe he’d be a good set-up man for Jansen or vicer-versa. Just a thought after seeing some of the moves the Dodgers have made recently.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      Too bad f its true. Would’ve been beneficial to everyone involved.

      The snakes owner is a real winner. Isn’t he the a-hole who forced the fans behind home plate wearing Dodger gear to either change clothes or their seats because he didn’t want them seen on TV?

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I would’ve thought that would’ve been a good trade for the Dodgers, I would assume Ethier would be a starter or at least get more playing time and we could use more offense behind the plate.

  15. zonadodger says:

    Not a big fan of Montero….Robertson would be nice brooklyn but dodgers would have to give up there 1st round draft pick

  16. zonadodger says:

    Who knows will see

  17. nedisajerk says:

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  18. messagebear says:

    I’ve been out of touch with some WiFi router trouble, but I couldn’t wait to get back on line to say
    “I’m totally UNIMPRESSED with the “acquisitions” so far, and consequently unimpressed with the new people in the front office. The same group of idiots under the Guggenheim regime with Kasten basically in charge will produce nothing different than Ned and Donnie have done all along. In fact, at the present pace of activity I wouldn’t expect to win the division next year.
    The team with the excessive payroll was obviously banking on making it to the Series this year. Now they will only be finding ways to scale down.
    I almost don’t give a shit anymore!

    • JhallWally says:

      Yep Bear, I am almost to the point of “not giving a shit”. Right now I am not very optimistic about our near future…. This team has serious flaws that it is going to take some time to fix….. JMO!!!

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        Ned dug them such a hole with bad contracts and poor management of the farm that unless these new guys are super geniuses, its going to take them 2-4 years to get out of it.

  19. kahliforni says:

    I find it troubling that a major trade could become public after it was nixed. Ethier must feel really good right now………… He’s the new Pau Gasol.

  20. zonadodger says:

    I have a bad feeling Kemp will get dealt….I hope not tho

  21. zonadodger says:

    I’ll always support my fav team (Dodgers) lol….But losing Kemp ouch

  22. zonadodger says:

    We need that RH Bat

  23. griz says:

    I think we all agree, trading Kemp right now would be counter-productive

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      I’d rather have Scherzer myself, but if either the Cubs or the Gnats are willing to WAY overpay for Lester, that’s fine. He’s got a lot of mileage on that arm, and I don’t think we’d want him in his golden years even if he were effective the first couple years of the contract.

  24. zonadodger says:

    I’d rather the Cubs get Lester then the Gnats

  25. zonadodger says:

    Of course coming from Rosenthal lol

  26. zonadodger says:

    Scherzer i agree on

  27. zonadodger says:

    Hamels would be good but not letting Joc,Seager go….But Amaro asking for the moon lol

  28. lbirken says:

    Sorry to see so much negativity on these pages. Let’s wait at least until the end of Spring training when we know more about the exact makeup of this team. I agree there are still a lot of issues and the new front office still has a lot of work to do but I am still going to be a bit patient.

    On another note, I was able to get Justin Turner’s autograph yesterday at a local shopping center as part of the Dodger’s Mall Tour. We had to wait a while but it was not too bad being with Dodger fans. I asked him if he had signed the contract yet and he said no, they are still working out details but he said he would be back.

  29. zonadodger says:

    Nice that u seen Turner lbirken

  30. zonadodger says:

    I’m going to 4 spring games..Got my tickets already..Really enjoy spring games

  31. kahliforni says:

    I know it’s low priority, but can we get the TV deal fixed, too?

  32. oldbrooklynfan says:

    As I write this I’m happy to read that the return would have to be overwhelming for the Dodgers to trade Kemp.

  33. zonadodger says:

    Sources: Padres, Dodgers working hard on Kemp deal, getting closer. LAD wants strong piece besides Grandal. SD’s Wisler one possibility….Take it for what it’s worth…..Per ken rosenthal

    • crash24now says:

      Matt Wisler, age 22, RHP starting pitcher. Pitched very effectively up through AA. This year in AAA was less effective with a 1.431 WHIP. But it’s the PCL for what that’s worth (a hitter’s league, not a pitcher’s league). By comparison, Zach Lee’s WHIP was 1.533 this year in the AAA PCL.

      So, a masher (Kemp) in exchange for an unproven starting pitcher and a so-so catcher.

      No thanks.

  34. zonadodger says:

    # KEEP KEMP

  35. zonadodger says:

    This better not b true….Angry isn’t the word i’ll be

  36. messagebear says:

    Based on Kemp’s performance over the last half of the season, and presumably after his full recovery, his is one of the few contracts that’s fully justified by the ever increasing valuation of such things. I don’t want Grandal, nor probably anyone else that the Padres could offer, in justification of a Kemp trade. Trading Kemp instead of the couple of overpriced outfielders accomplishes nothing to enhance the future of the Dodgers, but would only show to me that the ownership is really more interested in scaling back on their player investment.

  37. zonadodger says:

    agree bear

  38. crash24now says:

    As long as we’re talking stupid stuff, how about Kemp to the Padres in exchange for Grandal, Wisler, Ross, and Cashner?

  39. zonadodger says:

    If u trade Kemp to Pads….Ross or Cashner have to b in the deal

  40. zonadodger says:

    I just hope this is not true

  41. zonadodger says:

    Got no rh power if kemp gone

  42. crash24now says:

    Would you be willing to do Kemp for Grandal, Wisler, and Cashner?

    Grandal would be paired off with AJEllis as platoon catchers.

    Wisler would be stashed in OK City as possible first replacement starting pitcher.

    Cashner would slot in @ #4 starter before Haren.

  43. zonadodger says:

    Honestly i dnt want Kemp moved but if it does happen….Grandal,Wisler and Cashner wud be ok deal imo…Trade Andre or CC lol

  44. crash24now says:

    I was just looking at the Padres outfielders. I can’t believe Seth Smith only hit twelve homers, given that he hit four against us.

  45. zonadodger says:

    I like Seth Smith

  46. nedisajerk says:

    What the heck are the A’s doing?

  47. zonadodger says:

    lol…A’s blowing it up

  48. zonadodger says:

    lol crash

  49. messagebear says:

    If the issue is that Mattingly really can’t get along with Kemp, I have an easy answer!

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      You and me both Bear!!

    • JhallWally says:

      LOL!! It’s a no brainer…

    • Dodger4life says:

      I understand all the love that gets thrown Mattingly’s way on this blog. And I won’t pretend that he has been the best tactician, when it comes to game-day decisions.
      .
      However, I Googled Kemp’s name over at MLBTR the other day… It popped up some of the things written about him over the years. It also showed some of the quotes that have come from him and his agent, as well.
      .
      A few that stood out…were Stewart saying that Matt want’s to be viewed by his peers as one of the best in the game. And that unfortunately in this day and age that is gauged by the contract you acquire. It was said when Stewart was working towards getting Matt an extension…

      Another was during the same period. Stewart was talking about Matt being a 5 tool player and how there wasn’t any reason to foresee anything negative. At the time it held validity, Matt looked to be an iron-man

      Another displayed the riff-raff between Bowa and Schaefer as well. Saying they treated Matt unfairly, in calling him less than a professional. Which lead to Stewart recommending a trade.
      .
      Fast forward to last season…and you again have Stewart recommending a trade, when he was benched for his lack-luster performance. I don’t think anyone, including his peers would have said he was the best, or, that he was even giving it his best.
      .
      Matt claimed that he wasn’t advocating a trade that he didn’t have any control, Stating he had a no-trade clause in his contract. Which, as I read it ,came off as a lot of whining.
      .
      So, as fun as it is to call Mattingly out whenever the chance arises…I’m not certain he’s the problem in this case. Hanley’s farewell words…were, ”Donnie you’re the best”. I have no-clue what he meant by this…But it wasn’t exactly the easiest of seasons for Hanley for a number of reasons.
      .
      In saying this…It is my belief that Matt is a difficult player to keep happy. It is also my belief that he will be a difficult player to keep healthy in the future.
      .
      If you’re gambling that Matt will be not only healthy, but happy and a good team leader in 2015…You keep him…for all the reasons stated by most everyone here…
      .
      If not…Well, I’m sure you can see where I’m headed with this…
      .
      My overall guesstimate on things so far…is that the new FO has been dangling carrots, in order to get out from under the mess left by Ned.

  50. enchantedbeaver says:

    Of course the flip side to all of the Kemp trade talk is, what have they won with him? Not a pennant. Not a WS. The offense would be dismal and boring, but then it was dismal and boring a lot last year too, and they had Hanley to boot.

    What I fear though is the way Mattingly manages. Who’s going to hit the 6-run HR when no one in the line-up can hit? If Donnie played small ball like he should, then a loss of Kemp would be somewhat mitigated. But when you’re looking for the big inning every night, and the cupboards bare, we’re staring at an awful lot of shutouts.

  51. crash24now says:

    Just wanted to throw another pot to boil onto the hot stove…

    Now there’s a rumor that the Dodgers are looking to move Dee Gordon because his OBP is too low.

    • kahliforni says:

      Now, that, I’m down with. Second basemen are a dime a dozen and Gordon looked lost in the playoffs. Sell high. Not sure Gordon is your answer for the next 5-10 years. Speed kills but I doubt Gordon is ever an All-Star again. Kevin Kennedy disagrees, but, oh well. Dodgers have Barney, Guerrero, Turner, as well.

  52. zonadodger says:

    The whole free agent thing pisses me off….Some of these guy’s take forever to sign….Your making millions sign already….ya ya family etc

  53. zonadodger says:

    I’m ok if u deal gordon..rather that then kemp

  54. zonadodger says:

    Zaidi said team is not shopping Dee Gordon.

  55. zonadodger says:

    Zaidi said potential Kemp to SD deal is wishful thinking on media’s part.

  56. zonadodger says:

    Imagine the wait at the store ‘Jon Lester’ paper or plastic? lol

  57. zonadodger says:

    #Sign Already

  58. trublu4ever says:

    Dodgers and Giants out on Lester.

  59. zonadodger says:

    thx tru i’m behind lol

  60. zonadodger says:

    Dodgers were driving up price me thinks

    • trublu4ever says:

      Me too!

      • JhallWally says:

        I agree… I think we jumped in to make it prohitive for the G’nats… I think it worked… Lester certainly benefited from the Dodgers being in the mix….
        LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        I am glad that the Dodgers ultimately passed…

        Now, don’t trade Kemp….. I think it would be a huge mistake…..

  61. zonadodger says:

    Lester to the Cubs

  62. zonadodger says:

    Like enchanted said..To many miles on Lester’s arm..no thx

  63. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well at the moment, not hearing anything more about a Kemp trade is fine with me. I have to admit hearing about Gordon and the front office not happy about his OBP came as a big surprise. Personally I think the more he plays the more he’ll improve it.
    I’d also like to add that, I’m glad we don’t have Billy Beane running our team, I know I wouldn’t like that.

    • trublu4ever says:

      They just mentioned Matt again. I’m getting tired of rumors.

    • crash24now says:

      Now it seems that the front office wants to keep Gordon…he’s a low-cost, high producer. I’d like to see him perform during all of 2015 like he did in the first four months of 2014.

      #KeepKemp

  64. zonadodger says:

  65. crash24now says:

    2015 Lineup

    Gordon 2b
    Puig rf
    Gonzalez 1b
    Kemp lf
    Pederson cf
    Uribe 3b
    replacement shortstop
    replacement catcher
    Pitcher

    #KeepKemp

    #TeachPuigSliding

  66. zonadodger says:

    I know Romo is an ex Gnat but isn’t he from So Cal?

    • crash24now says:

      He’s from Brawley, which is near El Centro (east of San Diego).

      Age 31, career WHIP of 0.927

      He would definitely be a good add to our bullpen. Could be a win-win, as we would take him away from the Giants bullpen.

      MLB Trade Rumors estimated that he can get a contract of $21 million over three years.

  67. koufax1963 says:

    Kemp has the potential and the time to put some amazing stats up, I want them to be Dodger Stats. There is no deal, IMHO, for Kemp, yes even if we got a SS, a starter to fill the beckett void and decent BP support. An outfield of Puig, Crawford and Dre just seems weaker. I may be wrong, and Kemp may be Back on the DL, but Kemp has more upside than any other OF we have.

  68. griz says:

    After seeing what it took to sign Lester, I’m delighted he went somewhere else. These figures are ridiculous. Kershaw’s too, for that matter.

  69. zonadodger says:

    Jimmy Rollins to dodgers

  70. zonadodger says:

    Buster Olney ‏

    The Dodgers have acquired shortstop Jimmy Rollins from the Phillies.

  71. zonadodger says:

    Now there saying close…Could be 3rd team involved

  72. zonadodger says:

    hope this is not Kemp included..3rd team?

  73. kahliforni says:

    Looks like it’s a done deal. Call it the “waiting-for-Seager-maturation” trade. Rollins will be a nice addition.

  74. zonadodger says:

    agree kahl..1 yr of him at ss

  75. zonadodger says:

    from what i’ve read it’s for Zach Lee

  76. zonadodger says:

    Guess 2 young pitchers going to Phi..Not sure who yet

  77. crash24now says:

    I don’t mind having Jimmy Rollins as the shortstop for one year. He’s been great with the glove, adequate with the bat, and still has some speed.

    Maybe he can teach Puig how to slide.

  78. zonadodger says:

    It was the Dodgers, Pat Neshek said, that actually offered him the most money, although that’s before state income tax consideration. per Evan Drellich

  79. zonadodger says:

    The Marlins and the Dodgers are in serious talks about a deal that would involve Dee Gordon going to MIA, Andrew Heaney to LAD..Buster Olney

  80. zonadodger says:

    Buster Olney ‏

    Others could be involved in Gordon-Heaney trade; Dan Haren’s name has come up in the conversation.

    • crash24now says:

      Haren and Gordon is too much for Heaney. Gordon straight across for Heaney would be fine. Heaney would slot in as #5 starting pitcher. But who would play 2B?

  81. zonadodger says:

    Miami’s top pitching prospect

  82. zonadodger says:

    maybe a 3 way trade….Hamels? idk

  83. crash24now says:

    Stanton/Puig/Kemp outfield!

  84. zonadodger says:

    Dee is gone …wow

    • crash24now says:

      2B?? Barney? Guerrero? Turner? or yet another deal yet to be done?

      • nedisajerk says:

        Turner isn’t bad at 2nd but this make me think Guerrero is consider an option at 2nd since he can’t be send down without his permission.

        • crash24now says:

          Guerrero’s not so good on the defense. Does his offense make up for it? Maybe it’s Guerrero for innings 1-6, then Barney for innings 7-9. Not a great solution.

  85. zonadodger says:

    Heaney to Phi as part of Hamels package?

  86. crash24now says:

    Heaney is age 23, LHP, has some pretty fantastic minor league stats: WHIP 1.14, 2.4 BBs/9 innings, 9.1Ks/9 innings

    Will work out pretty nice in a rotation with Kershaw/Greinke/Ryu.

  87. zonadodger says:

    It’s official per Rosenthal and Heyman

  88. zonadodger says:

    dodgers sell high to get a number 1 rated pitcher in marlins farm system

  89. zonadodger says:

    there’s 3 more players going to Mia lol

  90. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Just got in and was happy to hear we picked up Rollins for at least a year or so than I was shocked to here that Gordon was traded to the Marlins. Man these guys mean business. I’m still not sure who we gave up or got.

  91. zonadodger says:

    ops sorry…3 other players coming to Dodgers and Haren to Mia

  92. zonadodger says:

    Dylan Hernandez ‏

    Dodgers trade Gordon and Haren to the Marlins for Heaney, Hernandez, Hatcher and Barnes

  93. crash24now says:

    Who are all these guys? Head spinning.

    • nedisajerk says:

      #Dodgers save $12.5 million by trading Dee Gordon and Dan Haren. Savings or re-investment

    • crash24now says:

      Barnes is a catcher/2B who can actually hit. Hernandez is a 2b/of, not a great hitter. Hatcher is a RHP reliever, age 29, no big help to us in the bullpen, unless Friedman knows different.

      So we get a good LHP starting pitcher, a decent catcher, and two other pieces in exchange for Gordon and Haren. Not bad considering that Haren is close to retirement.

  94. zonadodger says:

    Mia fans saying Friedman robbed them lol

    • crash24now says:

      Too bad for them, they shouldn’t have let Friedman get away. We’ll send them McCourt and Colletti to make up for their loss.

  95. zonadodger says:

    Holy cow, Friedman just destroyed the Marlins lol…From Mia fan

  96. zonadodger says:

    Dodgers talking to Peavy…ugh

  97. crash24now says:

    Okay, we’ve solved shortstop and catcher. But we still have six outfielders (Puig/Kemp/Ethier/Crawford/SVS/Joc) and only four starting pitchers. Maybe we can trade SVS and Ethier for Hamels.

  98. zonadodger says:

    I feel Kemp is gone

  99. zonadodger says:

    yes ned Miami has some fans lol

  100. trublu4ever says:

    I don”t think we are done…..lots of chatter right now.

  101. zonadodger says:

    we r not done tru….book it Kemp is gone..Hate to say that

  102. zonadodger says:

    Hamels to LA? Peavy? I dnt like Peavy

  103. crash24now says:

    “Kemp for Grandal plus more” is still in play. I’m not happy with that.

    #KeepKemp

    I’m sad to see Gordon go; he was exciting to watch. But I’m okay with the return for him.

  104. zonadodger says:

    Phillies are paying part of Rollins’ $11 million too? Wow

  105. zonadodger says:

    Ned could of never pulled off this kind of deal lol

  106. zonadodger says:

    I’m sad to c Dee go to crash…Return is good..Life goes on 🙂 Good luck to Dee

  107. zonadodger says:

    More moves coming..Dodgers r over the 40 man roster

  108. zonadodger says:

    Per Mark Saxon….The Dodgers have canceled their daily media availability with Andrew Friedman/Farhan Zaidi….There crazy busy lol

  109. zonadodger says:

    Hearing Utley might b coming to Dodgers

  110. zonadodger says:

    Another rumor floating around the lobby is that these moves are about lining up for the #Dodgers to sign James Shields

  111. zonadodger says:

    Looks like i’ll b up late tonight lol

  112. griz says:

    What happens if Haren now decides to retire?

  113. zonadodger says:

    His $ comes off the books griz….That’s what i’ve read anyway

  114. zonadodger says:

    clarkspencer ‏

    Hearing that dodgers, as part of trade with Marlins, agreed to pay Haren’s $10 million. So Haren is a “free pitcher” for Marlins.

  115. zonadodger says:

  116. 32and53fan says:

    This has been an amazing day and it is not over yet. Rollins was predictable and a good move. If Seager is not ready for 2016, I wonder if Jimmy would sign a one year deal?
    The Dee Gordon and Dan Haren trade took me by surprise. I never would have seen that one coming. It looks like they got a pretty good package in return.
    The money savings from Hanley, Haren anand Gordon could make signing Shields feasible. I don’t have a problem getting Peavy. He has been a Dodger nemesis since his days in San Diego and has a volatile temper. But all that will switch to the positive if he becomes a Dodger and unleashes his intensity on opposing teams. The hated Juan Marichal was welcomed to L.A. to finish out his career.
    I’m still wondering what the wonderkids can do to move Ethier and/or Crawford. While I have never been a fan of Kemp’s baseball instincts and his diva attitude, unless he produces a huge group of players in return, I hope he stays with the Dodgers.

  117. zonadodger says:

    totally agree 32 on Kemp..With all these moves i just feel like Kemp is gone

  118. nedisajerk says:

    Do we resigned Uribe to a 1 year deal if Seager is being moved to 3rd? Seager is 6’4 and I would hate seeing him playing SS.

  119. zonadodger says:

    Seager to SS?

  120. koufax1963 says:

    Dee was exciting, invoked maury wills, GO GO GO! when he got on base, and how much did his speed score, upset pitchers and created anxious catchers? It was fun, all too short, but I wish dee well, he was fun!
    There may be some bigger move being made. if Heany is ours fine, get a new pitching coach to develop him. But he may be pawn in a bigger trade for later.
    Ah I was thinking how double plays would be turned with rollins and gordon, just a pipe full now, puff!

  121. kahliforni says:

    There once was story of a team that traded a promising young arm for an All-Star second baseman. When the smoke cleared, the second baseman faded into baseball anonymity and the pitcher went on to win multiple Cy Young awards. The players were named Delino DeShields and Pedro Martinez.

  122. zonadodger says:

    Rubby De La Rosa traded to D’Bags

  123. zonadodger says:

    Joe Frisaro ‏

    I’ve heard INF Miguel Rojas is also headed to Marlins from Dodgers and Miami will receive financial compensation if Haren retires

  124. zonadodger says:

    Tru…I’ve heard Cole and Utley

  125. zonadodger says:

    Dodgers drafted Utley if i’m not mistaken

  126. zonadodger says:

    It’s obvious something very BIG is coming

  127. enchantedbeaver says:

    This all seems like the Ned “turn over half your 25-man roster every off-season” plan except with some intelligence behind it.

  128. zonadodger says:

    Ken Rosenthal ‏

    Sources: Dodgers close to four-year deal with free-agent RHP Brandon McCarthy.

  129. crash24now says:

    I’d like Hamels and Utley. I’d be willing to send the Phillies one or two left handed outfielders.

  130. zonadodger says:

    4 yrs for McCarthy i dnt like…Anyway hope he has good yr….Maybe no Hamels now

  131. crash24now says:

    Busy busy busy – It’s like Christmas Eve at the North Pole.

    I’d rather sign FA Shields than McCarthy.

    #KeepKemp

  132. zonadodger says:

    Maybe they will sign Shields to crash lol

  133. zonadodger says:

    Ken Gurnick ‏

    Dodgers are acquiring Howie Kendrick from Angels, according to baseball source.

  134. zonadodger says:

    crazy day lol lol

  135. zonadodger says:

    Andrew Heaney going to Angels for Kendrick

  136. enchantedbeaver says:

    When do we flip Mattingly for a real manager?

  137. zonadodger says:

    LOL enchanted…..

  138. zonadodger says:

    Ned tried to get Kendrick last yr and couldn’t lol…..I wonder why

    • nedisajerk says:

      3m Andrew Heaney ✔@Heandog8
      Well, @Dodgers we had a good run! Great to be a part of such a storied franchise. #thanksforthememories
      Retweeted by Dylan Hernandez

  139. zonadodger says:

    LMAO at the Heaney tweet

  140. nedisajerk says:

    10m dan haren ✔ @ithrow88
    I’m taking my talents to bed. Long day.
    Retweeted by Bill Shaikin

  141. messagebear says:

    The deal with Kemp was totally unnecessary, and I’ll predict that Matt will still hit more home runs at Dodger Stadium in 2015 than Andre and Crawford combined.

    • trublu4ever says:

      I think this is what he wanted. I like the moves the front office is making. Kendrick and Rollins. Gordon gone isn’t big deal. Matt developed a pissy attitude and I’m sure Donnie doesn’t mind him gone at all.

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        I wish it were the other way around.

        I don’t care who you have on this team, they won’t win with Donnie as the manager. He doesn’t have the tools and acumen to win with a bunch of stars – he’ll be 10X as lost trying to manage a metrics team when he doesn’t understand it in the least.

        • JhallWally says:

          I agree Beav… Dildon is and has been our weakest component…. He couldn’t manage the 75/76 Big Red Machine to a pennant…..

          I am hoping that our new brain trust will wake up and send him packing….

    • Dodger4life says:

      I’ll predict that Kemp will get tossed from more games at Dodger Stadium than Andre and Crawford combined. Although, if Pederson is in the picture…one of the others won’t be.

  142. griz says:

    I didn’t get traded. Did any of you?

  143. griz says:

    Chips are still falling. It’ll be interesting to see what the roster looks like in a month.

  144. 32and53fan says:

    My head is spinning. I don’t remember another 24 hour period where so many Dodger trades and signings were made.
    Overall, I like what Friedman and crew have done. The team is now a lot stronger up the middle.

    On Dodger Talk, Kevin Kennedy and David Vasseigh were speculating that the likelyhood of Kemp becoming a 10/5 player may be a factor if the Dodgers were to decide to trade him, besides the fact that he will never be as valuable a trade chip as he is now. Also, Kemp and Puig are both right fielder’s and once Pedersen arrives, there would be a big problem deciding who gets to play.

  145. JhallWally says:

    Wow!!!!!!! I’m impressed… Maybe these new guys do know what they are doing… Although, with all the good moves, keeping Dildon just doesn’t make much sense… He’s a Torre Twit….

  146. griz says:

    Those are good points, 32 and 53, and I think they want him off the team. The point keeps getting made this morning about a better clubhouse.

  147. zonadodger says:

    Well i wake up and Kemp is gone….Like the other moves not the Kemp move but oh well life goes on….I’ll always be a dodger fan no matter what….good day

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      Not crazy about Kemp getting traded either, especially for a run scoring challenged team. Kemp was one guy you stopped to watch his ABs. On the other hand, I’m not going to miss his bonehead plays.

  148. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Let’s see, unless something else happened, I see we have Rollins at SS and Kendicks at 2B and some pitching. Sad to see some of our favorites go but since many of these guys will only be around for a year we better get use to a lot of changes from now on as long as the team gets better.

  149. enchantedbeaver says:

    Question for everyone…

    Do you believe in the checks and balances of the sabermetrics system? Seems to be a total accounting/bookkeeping debit/credit approach to baseball.

    Can you really take from one area like hitting, and offset the minus runs scored by balancing that out with minus runs allowed from better defense? At some point you still have to turn a profit (and I’m not talking dollars. This team already does that with amazing efficiency) or you’re not going to win consistently.

    I realize that it doesn’t matter if you win 2-1 or 10-9, but as an old accounting major its an interesting study.

    • crash24now says:

      I think I understand your question. My answer would be that there’s got to be a limit to how low you let the offense go while trying to offset with defense. Was is Zaidi or Friedman that said he doesn’t care whether we have a differential of 1200 runs scored to 1000 runs allowed versus 300 runs scored to 100 runs allowed?

      If we have a stellar defense paired with 12 Kershaws on the pitching staff, but our offense is totally anemic (13 Buteras batting), then what? We will have a lot of 0-0 games that go into extra innings and we would tend to allow one run that scores on a fluke hit and lose 1-0 after 12 innings.

      I think we need at least some balance between offense and defense.

      That being said, I like the Rollins/Kendrick change, although it is likely only a one year move. The 2015 defense up the middle is much better than in 2014. Rollins and Kendrick have damn good bats, although they are getting a bit gray (but much younger than me!)

      I am of the “wait and see” mode on the Kemp move. I don’t know how you replace a .300 BA/ 30 HR bat so easily.

    • crash24now says:

      One other thing – the “sabermetics” on defense are not that accurate and/or reliable. You need to supplement those with the naked eye. Just by watching Uribe on defense you can tell he is super-sharp. I love to listen to Vin describe how 99% of Uribe’s throws from 3b to 1b hit Gonzalez in the center of the chest. Also, it was easy to tell by watching Hanley that sometimes he was not quite there at shortstop. Finally, watching Justin Turner at shortstop, we could easily tell he was confused by trying to handle that position.

  150. kahliforni says:

    First off, I love Kemp and I’m sad to see him go. But if I could get inside the collective heads of the front office, I think history bears out that power doesn’t win championships. Hell, look at the Angels. Power hitters disappear in the playoffs. I think the team is trending toward on-base guys and a lot of arms. No way Ethier stays, either. It’s obvious they can’t trade Crawford and they probably want Pederson in center. I still say that Cole Hamels will be a Dodger, some how, some way….Dodgers stockpiling many young players…can’t keep ‘m all.

    My head is spinning, too.

  151. kahliforni says:

    Looks like Friedman was too impressed with Colletti’s roster…

  152. crash24now says:

    An update to my 2015 Lineup from yesterday:

    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    Pitcher

  153. zonadodger says:

    I’m done talking for awhile lol….I got a headache from all this…Good day

  154. enchantedbeaver says:

    A little perspective:

    When Kemp had his MVP year, the team didn’t even make the playoffs.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Wasn’t Kemp injured when the team went on that historic run…During that historic run, didn’t they seem to plate runners at will.

      • Dodger4life says:

        I’m not saying that they will repeat the ”score at will” part…rather that having a quality group of guys that play well together as a team should be productive given a solid business plan/game plan…whatever you want to call it.

  155. koufax1963 says:

    OK Wow, did the other show drop (kemp), already stated I enjoyed Dee (first shoe), but Kendrick is fine, perhaps better, we shall see. DPs by Jroll and Howie, Im OK. Bradon mcCarthy joins the rotation or is this just fluff, like heany was, to get Cole Hamels.
    I will miss Matt Kemp, after a tough first half of 2014 , he seemed to like RF and responded in kind. but on we go! Not sure I can count on what is done this week will remain come April.
    Speaking about Donnie, if he has a good team performing, then he needs to let them play, certainly Torre set that example for him in NY, La Russa did the same in Oakland and St. Louis, so importance or impotence( yea donnie I know you just fathered a child, no issue there) of a manager becomes less if the team is executing and performing wth excellence. I will predict this if the new dodgers are in last place come June, Donnie will be special assistant to the batting coach.

  156. Dodger4life says:

    Friedman isn’t a nerd…
    .
    He’s Indiana [#$@&%*!] Jones

    [insert the sound of a whip cracking…]

  157. crash24now says:

    Where the heck are Friedman and Zaidi? It’s been six hours since the last deal.

  158. lbirken says:

    We all wondered what this new front office would do and talked endlessly about it but can anyone admit they were not at least a bit surprised by some if not all of these moves? Hopefully these moves were not made to show who is in charge but really are a start to getting the Dodgers into the WS. But let us be clear about something. The “Moneyball” approach (the analytical method of evaluating players) has never in and of itself proven to be a better way of putting together a championship caliber (or winning a championship) team than some other method. It was devised to work in an economic model that fit the budget. Clearly the other way of spend, spend, spend has not proven to be any more successful. But just as clear is the economic influence of contracts, player control, free agency, etc. on all of these moves. There is still a lot of risk in all of these moves.

    And let us not forget we are talking about people with all these trades and signings. Even with the high salaries these players earn, we still need to remember these players have their own set of emotions. It cannot be easy to have your life uprooted. I wish all of the players well.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Well stated as always…birk.
      .
      Eric Stephen over at TBLA claims that the locker room was a mess last season. [How long did they look like a team just mailing it in last year…1/3 of the season maybe].

      I think it’s a double edged sword, so to speak…
      .
      I sensed big changes coming…I had a sense Kemp was on his way out…That’s about as far as my [less than intelligent imagination] carried me though…

      • Dodger4life says:

        I also have no [ill-will] towards any of the players…I just thought Kemp was a better fit elsewhere. San Diego wasn’t on my radar…

    • koufax1963 says:

      The front office has spoken, in fact I think they shouted, certainly many teams use a moneyball approach, metrics and projected longevity at a playing level; but it certainly helps to have the financial muscle to nudge a deal. Griencke’s first comment to why he signed with the Dodgers: The $$$.
      So I am reflecting on the Heany deal, I suppose metric part of the brain trust must of thought heany was not worth the projected value as the marlins may have thought. Dee gets to go to his home state and Haren gets his 10M whether he stays or not. good for them. Dodgers upgrade(we will wait and see on that) at 2nd base with kendrick. Did we miss getting Cole, when only rollins came over? I guess Ill just wait and see, is McCarthy on the starting line up or is he and some lesser pick-ups just window dressing for another swap.
      Rotation now: Kershaw, greinke, ryu, mccarthy, need a fifth.
      OF: crawford, puig, hensley or dre or SVS
      2016 SS= seager 2016 2nd Base = alex guerrero
      I believe there is a bigger plan by the think tank, I can only hope it requires league, wilson and howell or any part of that to go, and a new BP resurected with a fifth starter. all very interesting.

      • lbirken says:

        Usually the Winter meetings involve a bunch of speculation by bored media types looking for something to write or broadcast. My how times have changed.

  159. crash24now says:

    Dodgers are willing to move Arruebarrena – no big surprise, but just another confirmation that Corey Seager will be in the lineup in 2016.

  160. nedisajerk says:

    I would rather lose Lee or Reed not Windle and he was drafted 2 years ago.

    • nedisajerk says:

      Tigers trade RHP Rick Porcello to Boston for OF Yoenis Cespedes

      Wow I just knew the Red Sox didn’t want Cespedes and I still can’t believe the A’s trade him for a rental of Lester.

  161. nedisajerk says:

    Phillies would obtain in return for franchise all-time hits leader Jimmy Rollins. Righty pitcher Zach Eflin and lefty Tom Windle are the players headed east.

  162. messagebear says:

    STILL UNIMPRESSED!!!
    A lot of churning, but in the end will we be any better offensively?
    Without Kemp in the lineup, I doubt it, and then our infield seems only set for one year before the front office has to go through it all again. What about the bullpen?
    Still the highest payroll franchise with no World Series in sight.
    Oh yes, and still being managed by Mattingly.

  163. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I see it’s been said we lost power and speed and did moves to counter it. I hold my opinions until opening day because I’m sure there are more moves to come. I think from now on we can expect more of this turnover stuff.

  164. koufax1963 says:

    there have several articles, comments, about clubhouse chemistry.
    well we shall see if these moves improves that. Seems to be some of these trades are because of previous affliation with the D-think tank. Example: McCarthy was known by Zaidi when both at Oakland.
    I almost equate this to the 7 dwarves, did we get rid of Grumpy and Doc? I see Don “Sleepy” matiingly is still here.

  165. lbirken says:

    I also think it is too soon to judge all these moves but at the same time, it really does not look as if the Dodgers are that much improved over the team that finished the season. However, it does look as if Donnie may have had more to say about things than we think if we take all this talk about team chemistry seriously. Clearly the folks who made these moves believe the team is better both on the field and in the clubhouse. I hope they are right.

  166. messagebear says:

    Isn’t it a bit ridiculous that a manager being paid millions per year may have difficulty in controlling (or managing) the clubhouse atmosphere attributed to a given player making so many millions more?

  167. enchantedbeaver says:

    My objection to Mattingly (and Torre for that matter) was never in how he manages in the clubhouse – it’s always been how he manages in the dugout.

  168. kahliforni says:

    Whatever does or does not happen, I will miss Kemp. He was easily my favorite Dodger–for many reasons, not just HRs.

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