Decision Time


The World Series is over. Now is the time for Andrew Friedman to step up to the plate. The next few months will set the course for the Dodger’s future.

The first decision will be what to do about Hanley Ramirez. The Dodgers have until 2 p.m. PT on Monday to offer a qualifying offer to Ramirez, a one-year, $15.3 million contract that if he declines would give the Dodgers a supplemental 2015 draft pick in between the first and second rounds. It is a safe bet that he will decline the offer. All 22 players in the two years since the qualifying offer system was enacted have declined, though some wish they hadn’t.

With the departure of Logan White, Friedman has one more top lieutenant spot in his scouting and player development team to fill. White’s departure leaves the Dodgers with three key vacancies: Scouting Director (White’s former role), Director of Player Development (DeJon Watson left for the Arizona Diamondbacks) and General Manager (Buh bye, Ned Colletti).

While the core of the team is intact, Friedman and the rest of the Dodger brain trust need to bolster the back end of starting pitching, the bullpen, and, if Ramirez leaves, find a shortstop who can hit, as well as field. Finding a catcher who can provide offense, as well as handle a pitching staff, and trading one or more of the excess outfielders is also on the agenda.


104 Responses to Decision Time

  1. 32and53fan says:

    Put another log in the fire. The Hot Stove season has begun.

  2. cpompe1 says:

    Hi all. Thx for the new thread. Okay it’s Hot Stove time. Like birk I think the Dodgers’ ownership is good. I still think it is nice having Stan Kasten with the Dodgers. With Friedman and whoever else he’s going to bring into the organization I think the future looks bright. I’m not 100% sure if I want Hanley Ramirez back. We can certainly do much better defensively at SS. And there is plenty of offense to make up for what we don’t get from Hanley leaving. But I really think that Hanley may very well take the qualifying offer considering he couldn’t stay on the field much in 2014; shades of Rafael Furcal. But if Hanley does test the waters, well, good luck. I firmly believe that if the Dodgers had half the bullpen the Giants have I think Clayton wins those 2 games that he lost to the Cards. It just doesn’t work to have ex-closers fighting for set-up roles, I think the team will take a good look at in-house position players to come up to take backup and spot-start roles. The Dodgers need an infusion of some young blood.

  3. nedisajerk says:

    crzblue posted this on the last thread 3 min after this thread was post.

    crzblue says: October 31, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    Hi everyone! Don’t post much but I do read the posts. Please sign the petition below

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I still remember when Robinson was move to second to replace Stanky, Campy replaced Bruce Edwards and third string catcher Hodges took over first base. A big move that changed the course of Dodger history.

  4. trublu4ever says:

    Maddon is the Cubs’ new manager…, we can cross him off our wish list.

  5. griz says:

    Billingsley has been bought out and is a free agent.

  6. griz says:

    I get a sinking feeling when I think about the bullpen, but it’s a long time ’til opening day.

  7. oldbrooklynfan says:

    In many ways the off season is one of the most interesting times of the year.

  8. enchantedbeaver says:

    Boy, you leave for a week and a half and the shit hits the fan…

    • JhallWally says:

      As far as I am concerned, shit hit the fan when Ned took over with the McCourts…. More shit got strewn when the new ownership kept Nedcompoop on board… And, Dildon…. They should have cleaned house… Now they are trying to get out of it gracefully… Bullshit… They should have done it immediately… If not sooner… The hell with trying to save face, just do what needs to be done… We could have avoided the ill advised and stupid trade with the Red Sox….

      Unbelievable… And, Unacceptable…

  9. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I’m just waiting to see what happens next. That’s the fun of it.

  10. lbirken says:

    Seems things are happening much quicker this off season than in previous off seasons. Scott Elbert has elected to become a free agent (his performance in the playoffs didn’t help but then again he probably should not have been there in the first place), Billingsley not tendered (no surprise), Wilson and Haren exercise their options (smart move for the players to have such a deal), and just now Hanley has a qualifying offer to consider. I am sure there is more to come.

    For the moment, let’s talk about Hanley. In view of the fact the Dodgers do not have a suitable replacement ready (Seager may be close), making a one year offer to Hanley makes sense. If he takes it, great. If he doesn’t, so be it. Other than Seager, the Dodgers do have a couple of guys who are better defensively than Hanley that have major league experience but no one as good offensively. It has been assumed Hanley wants a multi year deal and if another team wants to give it to him, good luck to that team.

    • trublu4ever says:

      I think Hanley will leave. Then again, I thought Donnie would be gone too 🙂

      • messagebear says:

        I’d rather be stuck with Hanley than Donnie, but I think Hanley will decline, and some fool not named Ned will probably offer him a couple of years instead of just one.

  11. Dodger4life says:

    Hanley can play ego-ball with the best of ’em…
    (noted by his Lambo that shoots flames)
    There’s no way he takes the QO, in my opinion.
    (He’d be the first ever if he did)

    • JhallWally says:

      I don’t think he will take the qualifing offer… I hope he doesn’t…. We can move on and get a high draft pick…
      Now if we could just figure out a way to make Crawford and Ethier go away…. As well as League and the Beard…..

  12. lbirken says:

    I see the Dodgers have claimed Ryan Jackson from San Diego. Wow.

    • 32and53fan says:

      Why wow?

    • JhallWally says:

      The 26-year-old Jackson will present a utility infield option for his new club. He has scant major league experience, but owns a .274/.344/.369 slash in over 1,000 plate appearances at the Triple-A level and comes with a good defensive reputation at short. Jackson missed most of 2014 after undergoing wrist surgery.

      Hardly a Wow.. But, perhaps, a useful piece….. Especially with the likelyhood that Ramirez will not be returning….

  13. kahliforni says:

    With a few teams getting shiny new mangers, I keep asking myself, “why Donnie?” Here’s a tiny tidbit that might just mean something…or not. Mike Scioscia’s 10-year contract extension with the Angels (signed in early 2009) allows him to opt out after the 2015 season.

    • JhallWally says:

      Interesting observation Kahli…. Something to keep on the back burner and consider….. Maybe he can get Kirk Gibson to be his bench coach….

  14. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I wasn’t surprised that Wilson exercised his option. It seems like he didn’t have a choice. I don’t think Hanley will accept the QO since nobody has yet but I’d like him to. I’m hoping to see him finally have a healthy season, with the Dodgers.

  15. griz says:

    I refused to see “Moneyball” for quite a while, simply because that screw up De Podesta was in it. I can’t remember the assumed name they gave his character, but when I finally saw the movie I did enjoy it. Most people soured on Ned, but take that attitude and multiply it times ten and you’d have my opinion of De Podesta. Now we’ll have another Beane protege. Great. But this one is said to combine analyzing numbers with traditional methods. We’ll see.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      Only thing I can say Griz is – it didn’t work Ned’s way.

      Maybe had he stayed with DePo, we’d still have McCourt as an owner. Hard to say what would’ve been had that been the case. I guess though you could say Ned’s incompetence helped usher Frank out the door.

  16. messagebear says:

    So far I’m UNIMPRESSED. Willing to wait and see, but UNIMPRESSED.

    That really goes back to the whole Guggenheim scenario. Big money, and Kasten in the forefront, but what has that gotten us except an obscenely large payroll that so far has under-produced. They have the money, but so far haven’t shown that they know baseball from a hole in the ground. Accumulating all these adviser names does not impress me, and Zaid? Highly touted, I’m sure, but Donnie will still be managing on the field, and I doubt that next year’s team will be any better on paper than this past season – only a year older, which may be a year too far for a number of them.

  17. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I’ll take my usual stance of just sitting and waiting to see what happens next. I welcome Zaidi to the fold.

  18. Haven’t been on here in a l-o-n-g time (I moved and my ‘puter doesn’t work in my new digs). Was very happy to see Ned gone to another, “advisory” position. I stand with OBF – on the new guy. Just got to wait and see what comes down. All I do know is almost anyone would be better than ole Neddie-boy. Just sad to see that Logan White jumped ship, cuz he’d have been my first choice. Anyway, soon as I get a techie in to “fix” my computer at home – just need an adapter to get into the WiFi I ordered – will be back to commenting as usual. Just know I’ve missed everyone here and look forward to good things for all of us! See ya!

  19. crash24now says:

    The front office is finally being reshaped with new people. As jhall so rightly said, that should have been done in the first couple months after McCourt was gone. Front office changes will take 2-3 years to translate into improvements on the field.

    The most pressing need for the “on the field” changes are in the bullpen.

    • JhallWally says:

      They should have done it right out of the gate… They were too worried about the short term expectations… Hence, the ill advised deal with the Red Sox…. Now, look what that has gotten us…. This team is a mess… It is going to take a few years to get it right……..

  20. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I know that most of the commentators on this blog must be happy to see that changes are being made in the Dodgers’ front office. Especially that Ned has been moved to another position.
    There will be 10 teams building a top 10 team and one of those 10 teams will become a World Champion. Only than will we know who built the best team.
    I think it’s hard to build a World Champion but there’s nothing wrong with trying.
    The Dodgers have never gotten to the postseason 3 years in a row, maybe this is the year.

  21. messagebear says:

    Well, if we don’t make it to the post-season for a third year in a row, it will clearly be a sign that we need to double down and get some more advisers for the organization.
    Just how many advisers does a Kasten need?
    Which ones follow him into the bathroom?

  22. lbirken says:

    I also have a wait and see attitude about the front office “newbies”. I am glad changes are being made but think too much emphasis is placed on the “analytical” side of things. The truth is the Dodgers have employed statistical analysis in some form and I am sure there is a place for both traditional ways and statistical ways of analyzing talent. I did read the book “Moneyball” and see the movie and enjoyed both. However, as successful as Billy Beane has been at Oakland, the fact remains that team still has not really won anything.

    • crash24now says:

      With great analytics and very little money, Billy Beane has gotten the A’s into the “also-ran” category. With Ned’s “superior mind” (sarcasm) and lots and lots of money, the Dodgers got into the “also-ran” category.

      I’m looking forward to what can happen with lots of analytics, lots of scouts with great baseball sense, experienced coaches, and a good deal of money. OldBrooklynfan is right, there’s a lot of luck involved in going from a playoff team to a World Series champion. You can’t win every year that you are in contention. But I think now the Dodgers are moving in the right direction.

  23. 32and53fan says:

    The Dodgers were pioneers in analytics, starting with a gentleman named Allan Roth. He was the first full-time statistician in baseball history. He was hired by Branch Rickey in 1947 after he had, on his own, kept statistics for the minor league Montreal Royals. His interest in statistics started as a hobby but he soon found part-time work keeping stats for the National Hockey League.

    However, his first love was baseball. Allan considered Rickey to be the most innovative personality in the game at the time, so it was to him that he successfully pitched the idea that he could be a valuable asset as a full-time statistician.

    With Rickey, Roth promoted the idea that on-base percentage was more important than batting average. He also was the first to give statistical evidence that right-handed batters hit better against left-handed pitchers than righthanders. With the Dodgers, he also provided in-game statistics for the announcers Vin Scully and Jerry Doggett, who were among the first announcers to pay attention to the pitch count of starting pitchers.

    In the early 1960’s, when I listened to Vin and Jerry on my transistor radio, I remember them mentioning Allan Roth many times.

    I don’t know how the Dodgers went from being leaders in analytics to somewhere in the middle of NL teams.

    (Adapted from

  24. griz says:

    These individual awards are ok, I guess, but I think we had something else in mind.

  25. lbirken says:

    The front office keeps getting bigger and bigger. Do you think Ned will have to share an office?

  26. messagebear says:

    The trouble with all these ex-GM’s and layers of advisers is that there are just too many people in the mix and accountability with no-one. There’s just too much money floating around, and as far as I’m concerned that means an equal number of assholes. That’s what it has come down to with this organization. At least on the field you know who is performing and who isn’t. When you have the front office full of highly paid assholes, that’s a problem in itself.
    I just don’t trust the Guggenheims to do anything!
    I only wish that somebody with some baseball knowledge had bought out the franchise for about $1 billion, which is all that McCourt deserved, and we could have had a normal cable deal that allowed the fans to see the games instead of the fiasco we have now.
    FUCK the Guggenheim bastards!

  27. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Remember, only two quit and no one was fired. I’m happy about that because I feel that too many changes weren’t necessary for a team that just won two division titles in a row. The additions that were made can only help make the team better.
    So long as they reach agreements as quickly as possible.

    • 32and53fan says:

      The Dodgers take care of their employees even after they are fired. According to, they named Gabe Kapler director of player development and Billy Gasparino director of amateur scouting.

      “The Dodgers also have reassigned Vance Lovelace and Rick Ragazzo, previously vice presidents of player personnel and pro scouting, respectively, to the positions of special assistant to the president and CEO.”

      There must be at least a dozen special assistants to the president and CEO.

  28. lbirken says:

    I agree, we need to give these new folks a chance. Remember, past performance is no guarantee of future performance, both positive and negative. I think there is accountability and a lot of pressure to perform. There has been too much emphasis on the analytic side and all of these new hires have a lot of experience. And this is important, they all want to work for the Dodgers.

  29. Dodger4life says:

    I wish the new guys all the success in the world…
    I see they’ve been labeled the “Dream Team”?

  30. griz says:

    I’m initially skeptical about the new GM, having already expressed my opinion about front office people coming out of the A’s organization, but I too wish them well. Why not? It could translate to a better team.

  31. messagebear says:

    This new brain trust will essentially be working to reduce the payroll which was artificially increased to the present level in order to make, then win the playoffs, and take us to the World Series. We know money didn’t buy that outcome. If the new game plan is to get us better prospects, make the team younger and more over-achieving than the other way around, I’m all in favor of that. Frankly I’m not starting out with a good level of confidence just because this multitude of front office people have such touted credentials. I don’t really see where they’ve achieved anything to write home about collectively or individually. It’s just as likely that the Guggenheim curse will catch up with all of them.

  32. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Past performances may not have anything to do with the future but I’m thankful we have a competitive team that is capable of getting to the World Series and winning it. No one can deny the Dodgers have come very close in the past few years of the promised land and I have a lot of hope that we can reach it.

  33. Dodger4life says:

    My take on what didn’t go right last season
    1) Donnie basically saying he would rather be let go (he would of been hired elsewhere had they of…in my opinion), then become a lame-duck manager in charge of keeping a bunch of mega dollar misfits happy all season. The Dodgers agreed with his leverage ploy and gave him his three year deal in order to make him happy (and I suspect.. not risk alienating the season ticket holders).
    2) The misfits weren’t happy all season…Hanley after having been told in order to obtain a new deal, would have to show he could stay healthy. We didn’t see the same Hanley that inspired fun, especially after being hit by a couple of pitches early on…
    3) The outfield situation…You had a guy returning from injuries who was given an enormous contract not too long ago…playing center-field, yet wasn’t really capable of playing the position well. This lead to a benching, a media war from his agent (who I believe mentioned the words trade my client) and eventually him playing left field, before finally settling into right-field. This also put two players who didn’t display the best skills to become center-fielders in said ”position”.
    4) The mistake of trying to get more from the catchers spot by signing a player who walked out on his teammates the previous season. Which eventually lead to him being sent down to the minors, where, instead of walking out on his teammates, he took his frustrations to a whole different level by chewing a teammates ear off. A teammate who was given a rather lucrative and cleverly scripted contract, without much being known about him.
    5) You had a former closer with a history of off the wall behavior and two arm surgeries…claiming he comes to camp ready to pitch…throwing a knuckle-ball to start it all off. Then after struggling, recants on his previous claim and states he just needs more reps. This comes one season after signing another former closer who was left off the post-season roster. Then signing another former closer whose claim to fame was his pot smoking dog.
    I don’t know about the rest of you…but if this was my money being spent in this manner… regardless of how deep my pockets were…I’d feel somewhat foolish and see an urgency to hire smarter people.
    I would add that even know the team won 94 games…It was below their expectations…
    I don’t think the new GM has any time to be tinkering with his little screwdriver…Ned on the other hand…

    • Dodger4life says:

      You could probably include a talented youngster who has only been in the big leagues one year, failing to stay out of trouble and show up on time…into this as well.

      • Dodger4life says:

        I would also throw in the new network…and the leverage ploy they brought to the mix…along with the cameras that no doubt followed their new network stars around, inflating things even further.

  34. Dodger4life says:

    I also wonder if the new sabermatics department will include the umpires…That way there will be less whining about what call was made and more in line with a sense of accomplishment…due to the fact they were better prepared to deal with it???

  35. messagebear says:

    What they need to do now is start canning the umpires with the worst reversal stats for a season.

  36. messagebear says:

    I see where Rosenthal is saying that the Dodgers are shopping Kemp, Crawford and Ethier aggresively. Let’s just concentrate on Crawford and Ethier.

    • JhallWally says:

      I totally agree Bear…. Unload Crawford and/or Either… Hopefully both… I would not let Kemp go cheap… I think we will have to creatively package either Crawford or Ethier with some good prospects or a lot of money to get rid of them…. Neither has any real value in and of themselves with their contracts… I would eat the money and get rid of them… Then go in the younger, more agile team…… JMO…..

    • JhallWally says:

      If our new brain trust can figure out a way to unload Crawford and Ethier, and get something in return, I will be greatly impressed…..

      • JhallWally says:

        Hell, I don’t even care if they get anything in return…. I’ll be impressed if they can unload their ludicrous salaries….

    • Dodger4life says:

      I don’t know if you can read much into this, but Crawford’s jersey is up for sale as a close-out on the Dodgers homepage…

  37. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well today’s the day for Hanley’s response to his QO.

  38. kahliforni says:

    Hanley has reportedly opted out. Corey Seager will be 21 next season and the Dodgers say they want to keep him at short, not groom him to play elsewhere. So, if he’s the real deal, let him play shortstop next season, not trade for a short-term, stop-gap PVL. Besides, as long as Donnie is manager, I feel this club is not ready to take the next step, anyway. So let Seager get his feet wet in 2015, then go for the gold in 2016 with a new field boss. I mean what’s another year of waiting when fans are already at 27 years and counting……

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      I’m thinking the new regime is keeping the old coaching staff in order to give them just enough rope to hang themselves.

  39. lbirken says:

    I can understand “shopping” players. I would assume most GM’s know how to play this game although some are probably better at it than others. At this point we really do not know for sure what the new front office is trying to accomplish: win now or build for the future. I have said many times before that the Dodgers have never (at least officially) been a build for the future type organization by accepting losing now (such as the Astros and other teams routinely do). I do not expect this new regime to change. At the same time, the message has been sent that the Dodgers want to move away from high priced free agents (and possibly long term contracts) as a way to build the roster but until the farm system can produce players on a regular basis, this will be a long term process.

    So what to do about Hanley. I doubt anyone expected Hanley to accept the offer. As I understand things no player has ever accepted a qualifying offer. Assuming Hanley does not return, who plays shortstop? The light hitting but defensively reliable Rios? In fact, any of the shortstops with major league experience on the roster are all light hitting in my book, especially compared with what Hanley can do. Do the Dodgers give Seager the opportunity and hope he can hit major league pitching? Or do they trade or sign an experienced “PVL” as a stop gap measure and work Seager into the position later in the season? I am willing to take a chance on Seager. I would not sign Hanley to a big multi year contract.

    As far as Crawford and Ethier are concerned, it would seem Ethier the logical choice to move. Donnie already made that choice and unless Crawford hurts himself again, why would Donnie change his mind? The problem for the Dodgers is what to do about Pederson. He has nothing left to prove in Triple A ball but even with a trade of one of the outfielders, there still is no room for Pederson. My guess is he will start the season in the minors unless the Dodgers can get value for more than one outfielder in a trade.

    • kahliforni says:

      Call me nuts, but I really liked Puig in center with his arm and fearless attitude. I wonder if Pederson has all the “necessities” (pardon me, Al Campanis) for that position besides a good glove.

  40. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well nothing unexpected happened as far as Hanley is concerned, although it would’ve been nice to see if he could go though, at least, one healthy season. What difference would one year make?
    So I’d guess we’ve seen the last of him in a Dodger uniform.

  41. griz says:

    I’m encouraged Zaidi said some good things about Ellis’ contributions to the pitching staff. Sounds as though he may do more than look at numbers.

  42. enchantedbeaver says:

    Do they have any metrics for managers? Just sayin’…

  43. griz says:

    Haven’t seen any yet. Maybe the win column speaks for itself.

  44. crash24now says:

    Manager metric shouldn’t be too hard, especially with the rapid movement of players from team to team. Start with a projection before the year for each player on the team – what’s their projected WAR (wins above replacement) for the coming season? Add up all the projected WARS. Compare that sum to the final wins for the year. If the team won more than the sum of the projected WARS, then the manager did well. If not, the manager sucks (like Donnie).

    • kahliforni says:

      I have a sneaking suspicion that after whacking Ned, fixing the clubhouse chemistry (hopefully), and revamping the roster (hopefully), that a failure to reach the World Series in 2015 will fall squarely on Donnie’s noggin. I also believe that when Donnie is eventually replaced that the new field boss won’t be asked to bring along his “successor” in tow…………..

  45. enchantedbeaver says:

    WAR. What is it good for?

    Absolutely nothin’. Huh.

  46. koufax1963 says:

    “say it again”.. nevermind. CY Young award today. Just want to see the votes and which voter did not pick Kershaw #1. and just how many bumgarner gets.
    yes suppose to be regular season only, just seeing influence

  47. kahliforni says:

    Congrats to Clayton. Cy Young 3 out of 4 years. SF Giants, World Champs, 3 out of 5 years.

  48. griz says:

    Very nice, but I want the big one.

    • JhallWally says:

      Congrats to Kersh… He deserves it.
      I’m with you Griz, I would much rather be celebrating a WS championship….

      • oldbrooklynfan says:

        It will probably be tougher for Kersh to win this award, since he’s a pitcher but there’s no doubt he deserves it.

  49. crash24now says:

    I was just re-reading our comments during Kershaw’s perfect game (sorry, no-hitter due to Hanley’s ineptness). What galls me is that we all knew back then (in June) that the bullpen was our weakness. Ned never did a damn thing about it.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      That was our Ned.

      Somewhere I read Friedman saying something about in-game management and strategy as being another important aspect of the “new” Dodgers.

      Buh Buy Donnie.

  50. lbirken says:

    Congratulations to Clayton Kershaw for adding the MVP award to the Cy Young Award. Normally I would be on the side that says pitchers should not be considered for the MPV because of the Cy Young but in this case, the Dodgers would have been toast without Kershaw so the award is definitely merited. And congrats to Mike Trout for winning in the AL.

    I realize Clayton would probably trade either of these awards (or even both) to win the World Series and would like to forget his performance against the Cardinals in the playoffs the past two seasons. Still, these awards are well deserved and I am confident he will get a chance to redeem himself.

  51. trublu4ever says:

    I think it’s wonderful for Kersh.

    • JhallWally says:

      Yep, it is great for Kersh…. He deserves it and I am happy for him…. It still doesn’t take away the disappointment of his post season and the failure of this team to achieve the ultimate prize…
      Something that the Giants have evidently figured out….

  52. kahliforni says:

    Baseball is funny. Individual awards did not translate. Showalter—team swept in three games. Williams—team out in four games. Kluber— no playoffs. Kershaw—postseason 7.82 ERA, team out in four games. Trout—postseason .083 BA, team swept in playoffs. It’s also odd that AGon didn’t even get a sniff for MVP and all he did was earn a silver slugger, a gold glove and lead all of MLB in RBIs. Go figure…….

    • JhallWally says:

      Great observations Kahli…. I had not looked at it very closely, but, there seems to be some incongruence…. I guess the votes are really cast before the post season….. Maybe they should wait until after the post season to cast votes… The results would propably be much different…..

  53. griz says:

    I certainly agree Kershaw’s awards are well deserved, if anyone were to receive these, it was him.
    lbirk’s and kahli’s posts above pretty much sums it up. The playoffs still leave a bad taste in my mouth, but looking at next year, it will be interesting to see who takes the field for us. Always next year.

  54. oldbrooklynfan says:

    If anyone deserved an MVP award it was Kershaw. The Dodgers would’ve had a very hard time reaching the postseason without him.

  55. crash24now says:

    During the regular season, it did get to the point where you were almost counting on Kershaw’s upcoming start as a victory. When his game came around, he would do whatever it took to win the game. Pitch a complete game. Hit a triple. Dive on the ground to catch a pop-up bunt. Field a one-hopper behind his back. Pitch an incredible game with all his pitches working. Pitch a gut-wrenching game with only one pitch working.

    He did it all.

  56. messagebear says:

    All these individual awards are fine, and in Kerhaw’s case certainly well deserved. Obviously playoff games were excluded from consideration. The plain fact still is that even Kershaw can’t perform in the playoffs, and frankly I’d rather win the World Series than have a Cy Young and MVP winner on the team.

  57. nedisajerk says:

    EASLEY, S.C. (AP) – Alvin Dark, a player and manager on World Series champions who sparked perhaps the most famous rally in baseball history, died Thursday. He was 92.

    The Robinson Funeral Home in Easley, South Carolina, said Dark died at his home.

    Dark was the 1948 Rookie of the Year and a three-time All-Star shortstop. He played alongside Willie Mays when the New York Giants won the 1954 title, and he guided Reggie Jackson and the Oakland Athletics to the 1974 crown.

    In 1951, Dark was team captain when the Giants trailed the Brooklyn Dodgers 4-1 in the bottom of the ninth inning in the deciding Game 3 of their NL pennant playoff.

    Dark hit a leadoff single against Don Newcombe, and Bobby Thomson capped the comeback at the Polo Grounds with a home run that became known as ”The Shot Heard ‘Round the World” for a 5-4 win.

  58. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I remember Dark as both a player and manager. May he rest in peace. My condolences to all those related to him.

  59. I met Al Dark when he managed the Cleveland Indians back in the mid-60’s. He was a fine Southern gentleman. Sending prayers and condolences to his family.

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