An Early Vacation

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The former thread was getting too long to scroll through quickly, so here is a fresh one.

The Dodgers kicked the Giants’ butts during the regular season, but the hated ones had that special something that works so well in the postseason. In a short series, the ability to execute plays, hit in the clutch and aggressively run the bases trumps a team that can’t deliver with the game on the line. So while the Giants are playing in their third World Series in the last five years, the Dodgers got an early vacation.

Most of the Dodgers will be kicking back, enjoying the warm California, Arizona or Florida sun golfing, swimming and maybe catching a glimpse of the games on their 80″ HDTVs or burning up the road in a $550K white 2014 Lamborghini Aventador, that shoots flames out the back. Don Mattingly, on the other hand, will be trudging through the snow, in freezing weather at daybreak, to feed his horses and shovel the shit from the stable.

I have enjoyed reading your detailed and well thought out comments, which I think represent a high point for this blog. With the demise from power of Ned Colletti and the hiring of Andrew Friedman, this promises to be a very interesting offseason, that will keep the hot stove burning.

Keep up your great analysis.

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126 Responses to An Early Vacation

  1. 32and53fan says:

    Hanley’s ride

    Hanley's ride
    Courtesy of TMZ

  2. trublu4ever says:

    Thanks for the new thread.

  3. trublu4ever says:

    Apparently, from what I have been reading, Donnie’s tenure isn’t as secure as we are led to believe. Joe Maddon has said no but, they are looking at Terry Francona…..your thoughts?

  4. lbirken says:

    First, I don’t care how much money the players have or what kind of car they drive. My hope is they enjoy the offseason, spend time with their families and get ready for next season.

    My thoughts on Donnie’s situation has not changed from the other day. Friedman said Donnie will be back next season and I think we have to take him on his word. Perhaps Andrew was sincere and really likes Donnie, perhaps he just wanted to stop the questions. I think Donnie has two more years on his deal and this organization seems unwilling to let anyone leave when money is still owed. Also, if Donnie were to be let go now, what does do to Friedman’s credibility? I would expect the Dodgers have a list of perspective managers in mind even with Donnie under contract and especially with new leadership making decisions. So basically, Donnie may well be under a lot of scrutiny which we already know, does not sit well with him. Not the best situation, is it?

    • 32and53fan says:

      I wasn’t complaining about the player’s wealth. I was just visualizing where they will be instead of Kansas City and San Francisco.

      It was another good season. With their record after the 7th inning, they were lucky to do as well as they did. I hope that Mr. Friedman works his magic to add and subtract the players, and comes up with a team that can win it all.

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        I’d just be happy knowing they have their 25 best players on the roster. I’m hoping that the days of the Leagues, Joneses, Bombkos and the Figgins are gone.

        • crash24now says:

          Thanks for reminding me about Figgins. After such a long season with the ups and downs, I had forgotten he was on the team at the beginning of the year. Another one of Ned’s “reclamation” projects. His only ability was to draw a walk.

          The bench needs to be built out of five “Justin Turners”. Or “Nick Puntos”. Guys that are both able and willing to give it their all, given that they know their role is a bench player. We could really use a couple of backup catchers, one in the MLB and one in AAA that fit that bill. For the last couple years, our backup catchers have amounted to bupkis.

          • enchantedbeaver says:

            Might be a bit longer than 2 years. Here are the back-up catchers since 2006 when Mr. Baseball took over as GM (in no particular order):

            Bennett
            Ausmus
            Treanor
            FedEx
            Butera
            Gimenez
            Navarro
            Hall
            Alomar Jr.
            Liebethal
            Ardoin
            Barajas
            Hernandez
            Olivo

            Ned knows back-up catching.

  5. kahliforni says:

    Friedman said he and Donnie had a couple great conversations, agreeing on overall philosophy, but disagreeing on a few points. I can imagine the talks might have gone something like this:
    “I like to win, Donnie.”
    “Me, too.”
    “Players can be real assholes, Donnie.”
    “Agree.”
    “Sometimes, now mind you, I’m not saying all the time, but sometimes, Donnie, a team need to run, hit-and-run, steal bases, squeeze, pressure a defense, spook the opposition, even if the catcher is an All-Star or the ‘book’ calls for something else altogether. It’s called having faith in your players. It’s called believing you’re the best and can’t be beat. That’s the beauty of the sport, Donnie. It breeds trust and camaraderie and a fighting spirit in a team.”
    “But the play might not work……”
    “Thanks, Donnie, that’s all for now…………….”

  6. JhallWally says:

    Well, it is obvious, this is not a TEAM.. They are a bunch of overpaid, underperforming prima-donna’s…… They can’t play defense or execute the fundamentals routinely….. And, they don’t give a crap because they are all fat and happy…. Throw in a dildo for a manager, and guess what, you get what we just witnessed… Luckily, Dildon will be gone fairly soon.. He will not be here in 2016… They should get rid of him now…. And, they might….

    This team has a lot of problems… It is going to take some time to make them into a true WS contender….. I just don’t see the fire in the gut that is needed to win a WS championship present on this so called team… That usually comes with youth…. This unteam needs to be severly overhauled……

    • JhallWally says:

      And, like most of us have been saying, it should have started with a cleaning of house when the new ownership took over…. They kept the same inept GM and Manager, then made an ill advised trade with Boston…. They basically stepped in shit right out of the gate…. Get a new manager and let Dildon shovel shit….

  7. oldbrooklynfan says:

    It’s amazing with a bad GM and manager among many other things, it’s hard to imagine how they ended up with a 94-68 record and won the NL West Division title. How the heck did they do that?

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      They beat up on a lot of bad teams. It isn’t that this team lacked talent. It had plenty to overpower mediocre teams, but what did they win? Minute they played good or better teams they folded like a house of cards (no pun intended.)

      • oldbrooklynfan says:

        I think if the bullpen would’ve held up they may have done better. I think this team had the capability to get to the World Series if they didn’t falter in the postseason. They lost it right there. They had a good season. It was like they ran into a mine field.

    • 32and53fan says:

      I listen to Dodger Clubhouse and Dodger Talk and look forward to hearing Kevin Kennedy’s comments. He has positive things to say about Carl Crawford and focuses on the good things Colletti and Mattingly have done. But he also will acknowledge when Don has a SMH moment. Ned did some good things but also had more than his share of expensive mistakes. It was time for him to move on. I think Mattingly has done a good job juggling a team full of injuries and big egos. Some of his in game decisions could have been better. I don’t mind having him back in 2015.

  8. crash24now says:

    I’m looking forward to a team that’s built 90% from players grown on the farm (farm system, that is). The first good move was getting the AAA team out of Albuquerque. The second good move was the firing of Ned. The third good move? Now where was that Dodgers handbook?

  9. lbirken says:

    OBF, I am with you. I do not think the players are all “fat and happy”. Just wanting to win is not enough. And to expect any team to have 90% of its roster “home grown” is probably not realistic in todays environment. Can any team make this claim? The real problem is the Dodgers failure to develop enough quality players to fill the holes that sent them into the free agent trash bin.

  10. cpompe1 says:

    Hi OTD. It’s been WAY too long. Let’s see what happens with the new front office look. IMHO the 2014 Dodgers had too many big egos that couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. Some of the big names did fine but they’ve got to fix the outfield situation. They’ve got to revamp the bullpen so that it’s not filled with a bunch of high-priced ex-closers trying to be set up pitchers. I was really sorry that Punto wasn’t retained after last year; I REALLY think the Dodgers missed him.

    • JhallWally says:

      Hey CP…… Good to see/read you again…. I hope you will be around more often…. I think you are correct.. This team had too many big egos with big contracts… They’ve all got their money…… Gonna take awhile to turn this team around….. They have alot of issues going forward… The outfield situation being right at the top…. Along with the bullpen…

  11. griz says:

    It is a shame Punto wasn’t retained. He was sort of a forgotten guy in the big trade with Boston. He would have been good paired with Turner, although had he remained with the Dodgers, Ned may not have gone for Turner.

  12. JhallWally says:

    Does anyone think it is a coincidence that the Giants got rid of Colletti and then preceded to win 2 of the last 4 WS.. And, are looking good for another.. I don’t think so….. Ned was a loser and they knew it… Geez!!!!

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      Well Ned is no longer the GM, so they say, now you don’t have to worry about that anymore. We’ll soon have another one to kick around.

    • nedisajerk says:

      I still think the Giants are one of the luckiest team that I’ve ever seen and had a lot of help in their playoff runs to injuries of key players to their opponent. Padres choke the division away in 2010 and the Braves didn’t have Jones in that playoff series so the Braves had to rely on Brook Conrad and he’s no Chipper Jones that for sure. The Phillies made it to the CS for a 3rd straight years so of course some of their players were beaten up and injured so of course the Giants took advantage of that series. That 2012 team was just some more bad luck with Rolen making a key error in game 4 and the Giants had no business winning that series when they were down 2-0 in a 5 games series. Now Molina goes down the Cardinals were doom and not to mention their bad defense and Neshek gave up the GT HR to Moose and Neseek only allowed 2 HR with 1 being Kemp and it was obviously the Cardinals gave that series away. What would had happen if Williams didn’t take out Zimmermann in game 1 after given up a 2 outs walk to Panik? That series would go all 5 games and who know what would had happen if Hudler didn’t try to win the division and used Cole in game 162? Is not like the Pirates didn’t do anything with Bumgarner in the WC game. I seriously think the Giants got lucky and I knew when the Padres choke the division away the Giants was going to win the 2010 WS.

      Looking at their bullpen guys that have help them win the other 2 these guys suck with other teams and had ERA over 4+ and who would had guess Ramirez, Castilla, Lopez and even Petit was this good. Who were the managers for the Reds, Cardinals and Nationals? No surprise all former ex Giants go figure.

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        But the simple fact is Shad, SF takes advantage of their opportunities, whether its the other team playing without their best, or a dink that falls in here or there. Our boys do not. One only has to look at our dismal production with the bases loaded to see they don’t take advantage of opportunities given. THAT’S one of the things that HAS to change before our team goes anywhere.

        • JhallWally says:

          The Dodgers waste opportunities, the G’nats cash them in… That is the big difference…… We’ve got a bunch of prima-donna overpaid egoes…… They’ve got their money…. And now, they can’t even play fundamentally good baseball… I think alot of that comes down to the on field manager…
          Unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. oldbrooklynfan says:

    It looks like the Jints are off to a good start.

  14. griz says:

    Yes, the are off and running. I think to a certain extent they were lucky. Their hits fell in and found the corners, while the Royals hit most of theirs at someone. Must win tonight (obvious enough) or it’s off to sf down two.
    *
    Going to be redundant now. All this still irritates the hell out of me, plus my favorite football team has lost two winnable games. They were not quite good enough either.

  15. kahliforni says:

    It’s all rather depressing…from the Gnats’ success to the Dodgers’ ineptness.

  16. cpompe1 says:

    Hi all. As a Dodger fan I don’t like it that the Giants are playing (again) for a WS title. But I’m not surprised at all that they are there. They are definitely a team that “finds the way” when it matters most. They are not the most talented team; they’re just the team that gets the most out of the talent they do have. I do have to give Bochy that. But with all that said, GO ROYALS!!!

    • JhallWally says:

      Hey CP. I too am rooting for the Royals…. But you do have to give some credit to the G’nats… They are a really good team. I, unfortunately wish the Dodgers could take a page from their book…. I like the way they play.. They don’t seem to think they are entitled, like our players… They grind it out and find a way to win… It is admirable……

  17. 32and53fan says:

    Whatever it is that the Giants have, I hope the Dodgers get it next year. It seemed like a lot of players had big swings on two strike counts with men in scoring position. A-Gon was the exception. His goal in those situations was just hit a line drive with a small swing.
    Donnie and the coaches were always preaching that approach, but some guys just ignored the coaching, apparently without any consequences.

  18. cpompe1 says:

    Are you kidding me??? I guess the gnats don’t like it when anyone hits a hr off of them. Bum and Puig anyone?

  19. cpompe1 says:

    Hi Kahli! I sure hope the Royals take that last inning and win the next 4 games!!!

  20. nedisajerk says:

    Rivers had some Clippers players come to Staples to see the Kings raise their 2nd SC banner in 3 years maybe some of the Dodgers players should’ve been there to see it to.

  21. cpompe1 says:

    Shad I do remember in a preseason Kings game Jim Fox was talking about how neat it would be to have the Kings and Dodgers win their respective world championship. Too bad the Dodgers didn’t fulfill their end.

  22. kahliforni says:

    In the absence of TV for the Dodgers, I find my allegiance is heavily towards the Kings. What a great team, coach, and individual group of players. These last three years have been awesome. I became a Kings fan way back in the early 70s when the Forum was just down the road from UCLA in my student days.

  23. griz says:

    The giants were not so lucky tonight.

  24. lbirken says:

    I also am rooting for KC to win the WS but the fact remains the Giants are not where they are due to luck alone. And as much as I might want to believe it should be so, does anyone really expect the players or management to get any added inspiration from watching the Giants play in their 3rd WS in 5 years?

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I’m assuming, your referring to the Dodger players and management and if so, I agree, I also hope so. I also think it’s wrong for anyone to downgrade the Dodgers because of the Giants success.

  25. messagebear says:

    While piling up all of these ex-GM’s for umpteen different advisory positions, why didn’t they just hire away Bochy?

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I read in the transaction for today that Ryan Minniti, who was also mentioned as possible GM for the Dodgers, has been named Assistant GM for the DBacks.

    • messagebear says:

      Ned probably needs an assistant (or ass wiper), and Donnie has excellent qualifications – so, why don’t they just do it and make room for Maddon.

    • crash24now says:

      Given the timing of this announcement (just 10 days after Friedman made his move), there is no doubt in my mind that Maddon will replace Donnie as the Dodgers manager for 2015. This move will not cement our ability to make it to the World Series, but is certainly makes it more probable. This month is the most exciting month since McCourt got the boot!

  26. Dodger4life says:

    Is everyone ready for Donnie-Ball 2015…
    .
    Under the new and improved analytic regime…

  27. Dodger4life says:

    I’m curious to see what other changes will be made…and how they will come about…
    .
    I don’t expect a complete overhaul will take place…but I wouldn’t rule out some sort of major change on the field.

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      I don’t expect any major change on a ball club that has just won two NL West championships in a row. Some tinkering is expected and I think mainly to please some of the fan base.

      • Dodger4life says:

        You may be right, obf.
        .
        My line of thinking is… Friedman put an emphasis on finding the correct group of players…players that work well together. I am also basing my comment on Mattingly’s, earlier comment, that the locker room was a bit different this year…
        .
        I don’t understand the basic analytic’s, let alone what Friedman is capable of…but I did look up what is called WAR [wins above replacement]…
        .
        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=22&players=0
        .
        There are a number of players who were off the charts on offense…but in the negative defensively…in looking at Kemp’s numbers, one would think his future is in the American League…Unless you think his defense will improve and his offense will remain steady…I also think with his injuries the past two seasons…It’s a gamble to think that he will stay healthy for long… playing regularly. I know he has a lavish contract…but I think, his offense in a smaller ballpark, in the American League, where he can platoon as a DH and get playing time…Would still be quite appealing to some of the wealthier clubs…
        .
        Other than Gordon and Crawford, according to the above stats…the 2014 team was slower than molasses…
        .
        It is my belief that a major part of the 2014 team will be somewhere else in 2015.

        • oldbrooklynfan says:

          I’m not going to disagree with any of that but I think too many changes, after what I think was a fairly successful season barring the fact that we didn’t win the pennant, will lead to too many regrets.

          • Dodger4life says:

            Other than Kenley…the entire bullpen needs to be reworked. I’m not saying Kemp is the one who will get traded…I am saying though, that they dangled him last season…and offensively he has shown promise again…They managed to play well without him in 2013. So, I won’t say he is a lock to remain on the squad. I’d have to be a mind reader to know what fits and what doesn’t from last seasons squad…You’d pretty much need to be present in the locker room day in and day out, to even have an idea of what changes will bring forth better results in the near future. I don’t think there is any way Hanley takes a qualifying offer, if, they even offer him one. I don’t think Guerrero is anywhere near ready to play a position well on defense. Turner was here on a one year contract…I think it is plausible that Haren could get a 2 year contract elsewhere… yadda, yadda, yadda…Then you have the Ethier, Crawford and Joc issues to sort through…

          • oldbrooklynfan says:

            You do realize you’re talking about a team that won 94 games?

          • Dodger4life says:

            A team that after winning 94 games…has seen their GM replaced…
            .
            A team that had 4 solid starters…in [23] game winner Kershaw, [17] Greinke, [14] Ryu, [13] Haren…a team that witnessed not one, but two no-hitters…The first coming during an impressive stretch from a resilient Beckett, which at the time seemed to inject life back into a stagnant club. A team that also seen 4 of the above mentioned pitchers spend time battling injuries. A team that will need to find at the least 1 starter, possibly 2, to fill the roster in 2015.
            .
            A team that experienced frustrations along the way from Kemp being benched and then moved to both corner outfield spots.
            .
            A team that failed to play an outfielder down the stretch, making 15.5 million a year, who is slated to cash checks totaling 18 million in 2015.
            .
            A team who benched the player with the highest overall [WAR] in the final game of the post-season.
            .
            A team whose short-stop, regressed in 2014…a short-stop who was the life of the party the year before.
            .
            A team which dealt with injuries from an aging Crawford, who cashed checks totaling 20.25 million and is due a 250,000.00 raise in 2015 and every year afterwards until 2017.
            .
            A team that no doubt needs to improve upon the 2014 talents of Perez, Wright, Correia, Hernandez and Maholm, as well as Wilson and League.
            .
            A team that just like the rest of us…happens to be watching two wild card teams, with 88 and 89 wins respectively, battle for the Commissioners Trophy and a life-long cherished World Series ring.
            .
            A team whose organization just hired Friedman, who has shown the ability to obtain younger, yet equally valuable talent.

          • oldbrooklynfan says:

            It’s strange that a team that had a great regular season couldn’t get past the first round. Maybe it was just a certain something that they didn’t have. Something that’s hard to see. Whatever it was the Giants and Royals have. I think it just wasn’t in the cards or maybe it was in the Cards.

  28. griz says:

    Me. I want to be bench coach.

  29. griz says:

    Nobody is answering my phone calls though.

  30. zonadodger says:

    Go KC..Beat the Gnats

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      With the series tied, tomorrow night’s game is a MUST win for the Giants with the series shifting to KC. I don’t think the Giants can win going back to KC trailing the Royals.

  31. griz says:

    That was good, Dodger4. I was never really against Ned, but since his demise, do you think he’d be allowed near the switchboard?
    *
    Must I say it? The giants didn’t look lucky to me last night. They just plain went out and won the game.
    *
    The trouble the Finnegin kid ran into made me think of the problems Paco had last year. The season was too long for a kid starting the year in college. Ran out of gas. Paco hasn’t been right since.

    • Dodger4life says:

      One can never tell, griz…
      .
      But don’t be shocked if and when you finally get through…
      .
      You’re greeted with…
      .
      Hello, Dodgerland Day-Care…
      Uncle Neddy speaking…
      .
      Teenagers…sure… we can always find a spot for the older kids.
      .
      Bench coach, you say…hang on, while I patch through to the bull-pen…Honeycutt, Honeycutt, Honeycutt…there it is…ring, ring…

    • oldbrooklynfan says:

      Yes they just went out and won the game, Griz. I agree they just weren’t lucky, they were good. Why is everybody reluctant to give them credit. Yes we lost, they’re still alive but it’s not the end of the world. It’ll start all over again in the spring. And maybe, just maybe things will turn our way.

  32. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Even with the Giants winning tonight to go up 3-2 in the series, I still feel like this series favors the Royals going back to KC.

  33. nedisajerk says:

    RIP Oscar Taveras

  34. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Shocking news, so talented and so young.

  35. crash24now says:

    Logan White is going to the Padres.

    • kahliforni says:

      Bummer…changes certainly are in the wind.

      • JhallWally says:

        Yep, I think some things are going to change…. And, might I add, some things need to change….. I used to hate the G’nats.. They play some good ball… Now I admire and respect them… They know what the hell they are doing…. Unlike our bumbling full of money idiots….

  36. zonadodger says:

    Ya RIP Oscar Taveras…Sad…Man i hate to see Logan White leave

  37. griz says:

    Changes are indeed in the wind. We can hope they will be for the better.
    *
    Once again the giants prove to be the better team. These last two wins were convincing. A little. I still think they were a bit lucky the first game, the Royals hit everything right at someone. Whoever wins out now will probably need a break or two.

  38. kahliforni says:

    Looking forward to a Game 7 on Wednesday. 🙂

  39. JhallWally says:

    If they take the post season into consideration for the Cy Young Award…. Baumgardner should get it…. Kersh faded miserably….

    • JhallWally says:

      And, everyone needs to stop the Koufax references… Sandy was nails in the post season….

      Hopefully, Kersh will get a chance to achieve Koufaxs’ status…..

  40. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well Tonight’s game 6 and I think it means different things to different people, it depends on who you are and what you’re looking for. Will it end tonight? Nobody knows. I have a feeling now that the scenario has switched back to KC, the series favors the Royals. But no matter how it turns out the Giants have already proven, to me, that they are a far better team than most of give them credit for. They are true National League Champions and all us Dodger fans can hope for is that all these changes will work out for the best.

  41. griz says:

    I can’t disagree, oldbrooklyn, I just wonder where these giants were during the regular season.
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    Can’t disagree with Jhall either.

  42. trublu4ever says:

    I hope the Royals saved some runs for the final game tonight …. GO KC!

  43. oldbrooklynfan says:

    The final should be a good one tonight. Probably not so one sided. Two good teams going for all the marbles with a slight edge to the Royals with their home fans being the loudest.

  44. 32and53fan says:

    So does Bochy go with Tim Hudson or MadBum? Maybe he will start Hudson and keep him on a very short leash, with Madison waiting in the wings.

  45. kahliforni says:

    Before anyone gets too enamored with MadBum being un-hittable, just picture Steve Rogers (dominant starting pitcher who entered in the 9th inning) watching Rick Monday’s home run leave the yard in 1981 to eliminate the Expos and send the Dodgers to the WS.

  46. kahliforni says:

    Yuk. Glad that’s over. Independent of the Gnats, really feel bad for KC. Wanted them to win for reasons other than the hated ones….

  47. oldbrooklynfan says:

    All I want to do is congratulate the Giants on winning another World Series. I give them all the credit in the world for achieving what many teams, including our Dodgers, have tried so very hard to do. Three in 5 years is incredible. We can hate them all we want but what else can we do?

  48. 32and53fan says:

    Congratulations Giants. Once again, they were able to silence the naysayers and go all the way, keeping their every other year championship streak alive. Bruce Bochy once again showed why he is headed for the Hall of Fame by making the right pitching decisions in the 7th game. Of course, Bumgarner showed grit by throwing 68 pitches, 50 for strikes, two days after hurling 117 pitches.

    Whatever that “it” that the Giants have, I hope the Dodgers figure it out next year. I have a feeling what it is that the Dodgers lack in the clutch…

  49. griz says:

    Maybe so. They obviously lacked something. This still sucks.

  50. JhallWally says:

    Damn!!!! I was really hoping the Royals would win this one…

    Now the Giants have not only won the WS, they have put themselves into rarified baseball history…. Even our best Dodgers never won 3 Championships in 5 years…

    The Dodgers from top (ownership and upper management), middle (GM and field manager), to bottom (our overpaid underperforming fat cat players), just don’t get it….

    I have to say, the Giants and Royals were a pleasure to watch… They are fundamentally sound and play really good ball…

    Unlike our overpaid bunch of former All-Stars…. I would blow this team up…

    Unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. kahliforni says:

    I try to muster enthusiasm for 2015, but then I remember we have Mr. Flatline coming back as manager. Blah. The Guggs really can’t do better than that?

    • trublu4ever says:

      Perhaps, and we can only hope, Donnie won’t like the way things are going with the new boss in town, and, he will opt out of his contract, Praying.

  52. crash24now says:

    I hate to say it here, but the truth is, Bumgarner was nails in the postseason.

  53. koufax1963 says:

    HI OTD,

    It really sucks seeing all these elated gIant fans. I congratulate, but inside Im going we could beat them in the NCLS, but didnt get the chance. Im sure kershaw would trade is future Cy young award to get a WS ring like Bumgarner won for his team this WS. Incredible pitching performance. Now a very long winter. Tired of saying” wait til…..”. yes 3 WS in 5 yrs. HOF stuff there.
    I hope the dodgers get their act together, because the Dodgers cant rally round their best pitcher, so they need to do more, it obvious to us what changes are needed. Per Angusta, Ad Augusta!

  54. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I think what hurts the most is the Dodgers won the division title and ironically against the Giants .I can still remember the Giants tipping there hats to the Dodgers. I had no idea at that moment that the Giants would end up with the biggest prize.

  55. crash24now says:

    Why can’t Kershaw do what Bumgarner did? Well, let’s take a look at the bullpen. If Kershaw had Bumgarner’s bullpen, maybe he wouldn’t have to pitch so far into the seventh inning when he wades into trouble. A comparison of the regular season bullpen stats for the Gnats and the Dodgers:

    Gnats IP WHIP
    Casilla 58 0.857
    Romo 58 0.948
    Machi 66 0.950
    Affeldt 55 1.102
    Gutierrez 63 1.194
    Lopez 37 1.327

    Dodgers IP WHIP
    Jansen 65 1.133
    Howell 49 1.143
    Perez 46 1.360
    Wright 70 1.408
    League 63 1.460
    Wilson 48 1.614

    I don’t know how the Dodgers go about fixing this, but Friedman definitely has his work cut out for him right there in the bullpen.

    • kahliforni says:

      Certainly with a functional bullpen, Kershaw might have won two games in the NLDS and beyond. Also, Both Bochy and Yost had no fear going to their #4 starters, regardless of their ineptness, thus saving wear and tear on their #1s. Again, a functional bullpen is a nice security blanket.

      • koufax1963 says:

        Fixing the Bullpen, is up to those in the BP. If they cant pitch anymore,then there is a problem. League, Howell and Wilson I believe are returning, they need to work their issues out, they have proven their ability to be excellent and to be terrible. There is suppose to be a pitching coach that figures the problem out and corrects the faults. Speaking of World champions the giants have rigehetti, who put the fix on romo, (who lost the closer job, but was revived to maintain a prominance in their BP), so for me as much as I hate the giants, I respect what there organization has built, from scouting, management and on the field coaches and players.
        Next year during the play offs I dont want to hear the dodgers manager say, with a 90plus pitch count on kershaw, “I left kersh in because who has better arm I could go to?”
        Pitcher development? That’s coaching and hard work. Clayton Kershaw is a natural. Now Honeycutt and staff need to work on the 3 mentioned above as well as urias, fife, Lee, bills and a host of others and be as attentive to in game adjustments as needed. If that cant be done, then perhaps it is more a pitching coach change then a a Bullpen change.
        God I am so sick of looking at Orange all around me.

  56. lbirken says:

    Congratulations to the Giants for doing something the Dodgers never did: Win 3 WS in a 5 year period. It does not matter “how they did it” or even whatever “it” is. And let us stop talking about using the Giants success as motivation for the Dodgers. If that really meant anything, wouldn’t we be talking about the Dodgers winning something meaningful even before this season? I am done talking about the Giants. Forget about them, at this point in time they are irrelevant. I also hope Dodger fans will stop yelling “Giants Suck” at Dodger Stadium as the feeble comeback to the “Beat L.A.” chants popular at phone company park and dog food park. It is time for the Dodgers to get back to the winning tradition and I am looking forward to next season where hopefully that will happen. I am not naïve; I realize the Dodgers have some issues. I refuse to believe Dodger management/ownership is as clueless as some suggest and I suspect we will see some changes in the way the roster is built.

    I also urge the Dodgers to do whatever it takes to fix the TV issue. This is a big problem. It cannot be resolved by sitting on the sidelines waiting for the other side to blink.

  57. nedisajerk says:

    Is this the year that Hodges finally make the HOF?

    http://www.ocregister.com/dodgers/hall-640292-committee-dodgers.html

    • lbirken says:

      It would be about time!

    • JhallWally says:

      Thanks for the link Shad…. Gil deserves to be in the hall along with Reese, Snider and Campanella…. He was the backbone of those great Brooklyn teams………………………………….
      Plus, he proved to be a good manager… I hope he gets in…..

      • trublu4ever says:

        Me too.

        • oldbrooklynfan says:

          It will be a wonderful day if Gil Hodges will finally be voted into the Hall of Fame. He truly deserve it. It would be great to see them elect Maury Wills also.

          • lbirken says:

            Maury Wills is one of my all time favorite Dodgers. While his stats probably do not stack up well against his peers, there is no doubt he changed the game and helped lead the way for the players who eventually broke Wills’ records.

  58. griz says:

    Haren has exercised his option and will return for ’15.I like the guy, but I’m not real sure how effective he’ll be. Ramirez is the only free agent I’d like to see come back, but were he to move on that would be OK too.

  59. crzblue says:

    Hi everyone! Don’t post much but I do read the posts. Please sign the petition below http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/gil-hodges-belongs-in-the-baseball-hall-of-fame

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