The Monongahela, Allegheny, and Ohio


The Dodgers earned home field advantage, should they face the Cardinals again in the postseason, by nipping St. Louis 4-3 on Sunday night. The Dodgers blew several opportunities to widen the lead when they failed to score with men in scoring position, costing Kershaw a victory.

The Dodgers arrived at Three Rivers Stadium battered but unbowed. The ball got away from the fireball throwing Cardinals pitchers hitting Puig and Ramirez on the left hand, and Hanley on his left shoulder. Although all agreed that the pitches were not thrown to hit the batters, they were intentionally thrown to move them off the plate. Clayton Kershaw delivered a clear signal that hitting his teammates was unacceptable by drilling Matt Holliday in the thigh on his first pitch in the 4th inning. Hopefully, this will unify and inject some energy into the lately lackadaisical Dodgers.

The Pirates are well above .500 and will be another challenge to offensively challenged Dodgers.


126 Responses to The Monongahela, Allegheny, and Ohio

  1. 32and53fan says:

    Dodgers lineup at Pirates:
    Gordon 2B
    Turner SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Kemp RF
    Ethier CF
    Crawford LF
    Uribe 3B
    Ellis C
    Ryu P

  2. lbirken says:

    Should be interesting to see how Kemp responds to playing right field.

    Interesting how we used to talk about the lack of pitchers who throw inside. Now we have the Cardinals who do throw inside and don’t seem to care if they put someone on by hitting him. Novel approach to pitching.

  3. I’m ready for tonight, I hope the Dodgers are too.

  4. Kemp draws first blood, I hope we can hold the lead.

  5. Some runs for a change.

  6. Dodger4life says:

    It’s nice to see the team has scored 5 runs on 5 hits. Albeit, this comes against Volquez. I still maintain that they need to bring some beef, such as extra base hits and taters that clear the fence.

  7. We may have a slugfest here.

  8. A nice hold for Wilson.

  9. trublu4ever says:

    Yay..we win!

    • JhallWally says:

      Woo-Hoo!!!! Win streak……

      • trublu4ever says:

        We needed the first game. I think Josh goes tonight and then Haren…, these are toss ups.

        • JhallWally says:

          Definately helps to get that first game of the series.. And yes, we need to get back on a roll… I agree, they are toss ups.. I hope Beckett and Haren can just keep us in the game and give our offense a chance… They are bound to come around eventually… One would hope…

  10. Happy Monday! Fairly good game tonight and the pitching was actually darned good. Maybe beef for dinner tomorrow night, boys?

  11. Dodger4life says:

    It seems like when there is no one on base, we manage to get extra base hits, but with men on…the team sure seems to hit a lot of grounders, some of which make it through the infield and some of which don’t. How did the scoring come against the good pitching in the All Star game…off and over the wall. How did the Cards score 3 against Kershaw…off and over the wall.
    I can’t complain too much about tonight’s game as the boys did their job against the likes of Volquez, who has a history of giving up big innings.

    • Dodger4life says:

      It appears as well, that Kemp has used better judgement at the plate the past few games. I’d still like to see him drive balls the other way when needed. When he was able to do this in the past, he was absolutely punishing balls that were in more favorable locations. Having Kemp become a threat in the box again, would relieve a lot of the stress we have seen in the way of offensive struggles.

  12. JhallWally says:

    Kemp and Ethier still sucked. Left 7 on…. Kemp had a big rbi to somewhat placate his not so good performance… Either just needs to go away… He absolutely and galactly sucks…..
    Sorry Tru, just calling it like I am seeing it….

  13. griz says:

    Could the bats be waking up?

  14. lbirken says:

    Same lineup today, no Puig, no Ramirez. By the way, did anybody remember that Kemp began his career as a right fielder? I didn’t. He was quoted in the paper as saying he felt comfortable in right even though he had not played there for quite some time and found it easier than left field. Who knew? All I can say is don’t get too comfortable because as soon as Yasiel is able , he will be out there and Matt will be back in left or on the bench.

    • kahliforni says:

      I remember well, because Kemp had/has the arm to play right field. Donnie plays too many stubborn mind games for me. Matt can’t play center field but Van Slyke can??????????????? lbirk, I know this will shock you, but Mattingly is not my favorite.

      • crash24now says:

        Matt can’t play center anymore due to a lack of speed. Crawford and Van Slyke have questionable defense, so they should be “hidden” in left. Puig could play center, but Mattingly is afraid of the adventures that will occur.

        This brings us to the best defensive outfield “rotation” of:

        Left: Crawford or Kemp or Van Slyke
        Right: Puig or Kemp or Ethier
        Center: Ethier or Puig

      • lbirken says:

        As if I didn’t know.

  15. griz says:

    Don’t know about Ethier. He’s hit the ball hard a couple of times lately. Not enough to make you want to option Puig, but just maybe these guys are starting to hit. I may be in a dream somewhere, but there might be some life in this bunch yet.

    • crash24now says:

      Offensively, Ethier has fallen off a cliff. This is the first year of his career where his OPS is less than .780 (this year he’s at .686). Crawford is worse at .658, and he’s been in that neighborhood three other years in his career.

      I wish Mattingly would have the balls to try the following outfield tomorrow against the lefty Liriano (assuming Puig is ready):

      Van Slyke LF
      Puig CF
      Kemp RF

      If Ethier is the only center fielder that Mattingly is comfortable with, what will we do in the playoffs if/when Ethier is injured like last year?

      I’m looking forward to July 31st when Ned trades away the dead weight of either Ethier (see what I did there?) or Crawford, and brings Joc up to the big league to play CF.

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        Dre is what happens when you do the popular thing and not the right baseball thing. They went with him being a fan favorite to the tune of $85M rather than trade his ass when he had some value. Now not only does he have little value from a baseball standpoint, they’ve doomed themselves to him being with the club another 3 years because no one will touch that contract when he’s only a part time player at best.

        Just another in a long LONG line of questionable baseball decisions made by NedCo.

        • JhallWally says:

          Absolutely my brother… How long have you and I been calling for/pleading for them to trade Ethier when we could have gotten a nice return…. At least 3 years…. We could have gotten something worthwhile back then…. And, I think we were both very vocal about the ill advised contract they signed him to… I was mystified when they actually did it…

  16. enchantedbeaver says:

    Far be it for Ned to dump Maholm or Perez, no, he options Paco to reactivate Beckett. Ned’s no brighter than Donnie, and that’s saying something.

  17. griz says:

    Seems like Kemp played right when he first came up. I did see him play right field in Denver once. Tomko was pitching and the balls were flying out of there at a terrific rate. I think Holliday hit one of them. Hey.. maybe Tomko’s available.

  18. Another big game. Need this win, tonight.
    Needless to say.

  19. crash24now says:

    The pennant race is heating up. Not only are we tied with the Giants, we are also tied with the Nationals, a half game ahead of the Brewers, one game ahead of the Braves and the Cards, two games ahead of the Pirates, and three games ahead of the Reds.

    If we slip up, there are plenty of teams that want our playoff spot.

    Let’s go out there and win them, one game at a time.

  20. messagebear says:

    With what we have in payroll and what we have in players (on paper), if we can’t take the division, I’ll personally root against us making the playoffs via the wild card. PERIOD.

  21. crash24now says:

    Breaking news (not really) – Ethier leaves another 2 on base.

  22. messagebear says:

    My feeling is now also that we need to lose Andre from the roster. He’s no longer Dodger material. It doesn’t mean that he can’t be a useful major league player – no longer the great potential, but he can still be reasonably good, but not on our team. I personally think that playing for Mattingly ruined him and essentially his career. He’s now labeled as a part time player and one who can’t hit a left hander. That didn’t necessarily used to be the case until Mattingly’s self-fulfilling prophecy made it so. I think Andre needs a change of scene, and he could still resurrect in the right environment and under the right manager. I believe he’s a man of good character and has shown that he can be a team player. I would wish him luck anywhere else, but I think his ability as a Dodger has been exhausted.

  23. crash24now says:

    Gopher ball. Now our sucky offense needs to come up with two runs (or more).

  24. Niel Walker & Ike Davis put us in a 2-0 hole.

  25. We got one back quickly.

  26. trublu4ever says:


  27. Oh boy, Good to see ‘Dre come through.

  28. Dodger4life says:

    I’m just tuning in everyone…
    Have we hit anything past the infield grass yet?

  29. Polanco…How’re we suppose to keep up with these HRs?

  30. crash24now says:

    I’ve held myself back until now…but, with three gopher balls in three innings – Did Beckett lose the feeling in his fingers again????

  31. Dodger4life says:

    All we have to do is get three more chickens to cross the plate…
    Rally Wings

  32. trublu4ever says:

    New ball game.

  33. trublu4ever says:

    Uh, oh….now Wright to blow this wide open.

  34. Damn. I thought Wright would pitch out of it.

  35. It’s gonna be tough to come back.

  36. Agon makes it 8-6 with a two run HOME RUN

  37. Dodger4life says:

    A come from behind road win sure would be nice….

  38. The more I read/see of Perez, the less I like him. Three walks this inning is three too many. Get him out of there, Donnie boy!

  39. Dodger4life says:

    Anyone else read that Donnie claims he is happy with the group of guys he has now. That the team doesn’t need any upgrades in the next few days.

  40. The hitters are doing their jobs. The pitching not so much. The manager – not at all.

  41. Well that’s over…..but the Giants just tied their game up with the Phillies.

  42. trublu4ever says:

    Donnie is once again to blame for this debacle…I can’t believe he still has a job!!!

  43. griz says:

    What the hell is wrong with League? Putting up zeroes.

  44. It won’t be too bad if the Giants lose.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Sorry oldbrooklynfan. I know you are just looking for a bright spot among all this. However….
      Beckett, Maholm, Wright, PEREZ, ESPECIALLY PEREZ, and League. Make this bad no matter how things go in Philly. If you ask me.

      • trublu4ever says:

        They should have DFAd Perez and kept Paco.

        • JhallWally says:

          Truer words were never spoken… What in the hell are these people thinking???

          They should DFA Nedcompoop and Dildon….


      • kahliforni says:

        Donnie used the Garbage Squad tonight and they couldn’t rise to the occasion. Can’t pitch the bullpen studs every night.

        • enchantedbeaver says:

          I agree Kahli, but sometimes you need to take out the garbage.

          Withrow going down was a blow, but signing Maholm and Perez in the first place was questionable at best when you have Paco, Dominguez, Baez, Magill, Fife, Yimi and Patterson in the minors, any of whom would have been a better choice in talent, and less money, plus it would give them valuable experience. Its just more evidence that Ned has no idea how to judge talent, nor know what he’s doing in putting together a team. Year after year, young guys bail out this team, yet year after year Ned shuns rookies in favor of garbage.

          Ned never learns. Donnie’s hopeless and hapless. Kasten doesn’t seem to give a shit. Any wonder why the players don’t seem to really care all that much?

  45. griz says:

    Beckett aggravated his hip injury on the 6th against the Rocks and you could see plainly he was hurting. I admired the way he went back out and pitched while obviously in pain and did a good job. Last night did not go nearly as well and his hip problem is going to be there for the rest of the year. Earlier I thought we could successfully get thought the season with Josh and Haren, but now I’ve got my doubts. After last nights debacle, it’s obvious we need more pitching, but where do you get it and how?

  46. I’m happy that MLB Extra Innings will have a Dodger (away) feed, tonight. I have a new computer and I need some help with MLB.TV, which, if I get the problem corrected, I might use more often.

  47. crash24now says:

    Who the hell decided that Perez is an adequate pitcher in a one-run game in the eighth inning? Don Mattingly.

    Who the hell left Perez in the game after two straight walks? Don Mattingly.

    Who the hell left Perez in the game after three straight walks? Don Mattingly.

    Who the hell allowed Perez to walk in a run in a one-run game in the eighth inning? Don Mattingly.

    Conclusion: Get rid of Don Mattingly.

    I’m sure that won’t happen right now, but if we miss the playoffs this year, Mattingly has got to go.

    As it is, Perez should not be on this team. DFA Chris Perez right now, before tonight’s game.

  48. crash24now says:

    Ummmm…Lesser Lineup against Lefty Liriano…

    Gordon 2B
    Kemp RF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Van Slyke CF
    Uribe 3B
    Crawford LF
    Rojas SS
    Butera C
    Haren P

  49. The only bright light I’m seeing right now is that AGon looks like he’s back on track. Maybe he can be the one that gives the rest of the lackless wonders a kick in the “you-know-what” and get them to pick up the pace. But what to do about the pitching corps, and especially that so-called manager . . . Oh, Great Dodger in the Sky, we need help!

    • crash24now says:

      Right on with A-Gon. We need a leader amongst the position players. Kershaw obviously is a leader, but he’s only in the game every once every five days. This was supposed to be Kemp’s team, but he’s the antithesis of a leader.

  50. trublu4ever says:


  51. crash24now says:

    Wonder if our feckless offense will get any of these runs back anytime soon.

  52. Better start rooting for the Phillies tonight.

  53. lbirken says:

    Looks like another long night for the bullpen. The sorry look on Haren’s face is not encouraging.

  54. Different day – same woes continue.

  55. kahliforni says:

    Wow, Haren may force the Dodgers’ hand.

  56. enchantedbeaver says:

    Pitiful offense. Pitiful line-up. Pitiful team. $250M doesn’t buy what it used to.

    Note to Stan: Ned never has been very good at spending the owner’s money. Perhaps a little research next time before you rehire an idiot. Also, next time don’t let yourself get bullied into an extension by someone that clearly hasn’t grasped the first thing about his job.

    I think I’m done with this crap for the season. Call me when two needed heads roll along with some worthless prima donnas. Until then, no matter what the record this club will always be second rate.

  57. kahliforni says:

    Kevin Kennedy, talking on the radio feed, lauded the Pirates under Hurdle as a gritty, hard-nosed, hustling team, reflecting Hurdle himself. Funny, he never described this current Dodger collection. I maintain the Dodgers’ problem is not in the roster.

  58. We got a run??! Amazing!

  59. Haren really settled down after that first inning but it may be too late.

  60. lbirken says:

    Another review of a close play at first. Why have any umpires if there will be reviews of every close play?

  61. lbirken says:

    So Kevin Kennedy likes the job Clint Hurdle is doing. I have a lot of respect for Kennedy and Hurdle may be doing a good job with the Pirates but this does beg the question: what is Hurdle doing now that is any different than what he did before? His overall record as a manager is under .500 and one N.L. pennant in 12 years.

    • kahliforni says:

      Kennedy, in my opinion, was making the point that the Pirates are playing up to their potential and won’t go down without a fight. Are Mattingly’s Dodgers playing to their potential? Are they a feisty team? 26 years and counting, lbirk, and I can not see Donnie Baseball changing that sad dynamic.

      • JhallWally says:

        Nicely stated… And, my sentiments almost exactly….
        This team will not reach the upper heights of baseball with Dildon and Nedcompoop… Beav and I have known this for years… Just go back and look at our posts….

        • trublu4ever says:

          Yep…you are right. I knew we would lose before this game even started. Meanwhile, the Giants get a clutch hit (what the hell is that?!) in the 9th inning of a 0-0 game and win. They are playing clutch and we put the brakes on.

  62. The Dodgers lost rather easily tonight. The Bucs took them out of the game in the first inning. Now let’s hope the Phillies can prevent them from sliding too far back.

  63. lbirken says:

    I know a lot will be said about Haren’s performance tonight but with the offense asleep, a Dodger pitcher would have had to throw a shutout for the Dodgers to win.

  64. Giants just won. We’re 2 out but we’ve been behind before. It ain’t over yet. Just gotta hang in there.

  65. griz says:

    With Beckett hurting, an ineffective Haren (though I wonder what he was doing differently at the end of his start to get the pirates out) and a less than adequate bullpen, which of your prospects do you give up? Which outfielder is bundled up into the deal and how many millions do you eat. I think Pederson and Seager stay, no matter what. Crawford would be my pick to leave. Moving two of them would be better, however unlikely.

  66. It’s going to be a tough series this weekend. A sweep by the Giants (which I doubt) could put us out of it. All we got going for us is our three best starting pitchers. Regardless of how good they do they need help from our relatively week offense. We need to get the lead so we can depend on our best relievers to hold that lead.
    The Giants seem to be on the move again, so it’s going to be tough.

  67. Dodger4life says:

    Joc Pederson hit his 20th home-run last night in AAA. He was also hit by a pitch. I’m not sure, but I think he was hit earlier in the week by a pitch as well. The dinger gives him, 20/20, back to back, home-run and stolen base seasons. It makes me wonder if the opposing teams and their pitchers are trying to force a recall, or trade, by increasing the likely hood that he may become injured. He sure looks to be a cut above the AAA level.

  68. crash24now says:

    Giants lost to Philly, so we’re 1 1/2 games back.

    After the weekend series at the phone booth, we’ll be somewhere between 1 1/2 games up and 4 1/2 games back.

  69. kahliforni says:

    Throwing Greinke, Kershaw and Ryu will help, as will missing Bumgarner. But who’s to say? They have Bochy…we have Donnie.

  70. Dodger4life says:

    An off-day and pulled back muscle, have me studying the 30 day stat sheet over on the Dodgers home-page.
    Puig, who, for a guy that looked to be somewhat banged-up and maybe even tired, has a fairly nice line going for him. 23 singles, 9 doubles, 2 triples and a lone home-run, with 8 RBI’s. The 8 runs-batted-in, is a little lower than some, but he leads the team in runs scored.
    A-Gon, Ellis, Ethier, Kemp, Uribe, Puig and Gordon, all have on-base-percentages above .300.
    Either, Puig and Gordon, each have slugging-percentages above .400.
    Gordon and Puig, are the only two players, with combined-on-base-plus-slugging-percentages, above .800.

    Van Slyke and Rojas have both been to the plate 50 times.
    Van Slyke has 11 singles, 1 double, 3 home-runs, and 6 RBI’s.
    Rojas has 8 singles, 1 double, 1 home-run, with 2 RBI’s.
    Kemp, Puig, Gordon, Uribe, A-Gon and Van Slyke have more than 15 K’s.
    Ellis and Ethier are close to this mark though, with 14 for A.J. and 13 for Andre
    Van Slyke and Uribe are the two players with more than 50 at-bats and less than 5 walks. Van Slyke – 3, Uribe – 4. Rojas has 5. Gordon – 6. Ethier and A-Gon – 8. Ramirez and Puig – 9. Ellis – 10. Kemp – 11.
    The stats of impact or non-impact players, due to injuries.

    Crawford – In less than half the at-bats of Rojas, he has 1 less K, 7. Other than crossing the plate once, his stat-line, is pretty much a flat-line.

    Ramirez – 29 at-bats – Hanley has, 9 singles, 3 doubles, and 3
    RBI’s. His OPS is above .300, his SLG is above .400, and combined, they are above .800 – .512/.414/.926.

    Turner – 19 at-bats, 6 singles, 2 doubles, 1 triple and 4 RBI’s.

    The impact-of-beef-combined, IBF/Crawford-Ramirez-Turner, is zero. No home-runs from these three.
    The outfielder with the most at-bats, Kemp – 84. The infielder, A-Gon – 93.
    Gordon leads the team in singles hit, with 34.

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