First Quarter Extrapolations

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Lying with statistics.  We all do it, yet we all hate to be fooled by it.  It’s fun to do, yet exasperating.  Let’s see what happens when we apply it to the 2014 Dodgers:

  • Their final record will be 85-77, good enough for third place and 18 games behind the Giants.  The Giants finish the season at an incredible 103-59.
  • Adrian Gonzalez leads the Dodgers with 36 HRs and 108 RBIs.
  • Yasiel Puig finishes his sophomore season with 28 HRs and 116 RBIs.
  • Dee Gordon steals 96 bases and is caught just 12 times.
  • Zack Greinke and Dan Haren lead the pitching staff with records of 24-4 and 20-4, respectively.
  • Clayton Kershaw is only able to chip in with eight wins on the year.
  • Kenley Jansen has 48 saves, but 8 blown saves.
  • Brian Wilson finishes with an 0-8 record and 4 blown saves.
  • AJ Ellis has eight walks in 58 plate appearances.

Obviously, none of the above is going to happen.  That’s why they play the games.

Here’s looking forward to the last three quarters of the season being more successful than the first one quarter.

237 Responses to First Quarter Extrapolations

  1. crash24now says:

    I thought we needed a new post, so here it is.

  2. Dodger4life says:

    But, Kershaw’s win percentage will improve from 48% in his Cy Young year of 2013, to 68% in 2014.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Not to mention…one hanging curveball will have kept him from going undefeated. Man talk about tough breaks!

  3. crash24now says:

    Tonight’s Lineup

    Gordon 2B
    Puig RF
    Ramirez SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Kemp CF
    Crawford LF
    Turner 3B
    Butera C
    Beckett P

    Still waiting on AJ Ellis’ return.

    • Ok, why Crawford and not Andre? He’s had two productive, great games in a row. What about Donnie’s saying he plans on going with the hottest hitters? I am shaking my head in wonderment and contemplating why he is still manager.

      • messagebear says:

        I had the same question about breaking up Andre’s stride by having him sit after two successful games.
        I have only this observation about Donnie’s success:
        He’s an asshole, and, everybody in the ownership also being assholes, it should come as no surprise how much they like another asshole.

        • crash24now says:

          It’s time for Ned to man up, decide between Ethier and Crawford, then trade one of them away. Even if it means eating most of their salary. Especially now that Pederson is ready to replace anyone in case of an injury.

          • Dodger4life says:

            We’re still what, 2 1/2 months away from the trade deadline?
            Who would you trade and why crash? I’m interested in hearing yours or anyone’s logic behind such a transaction. Other than what you have shared in the above post. Pro’s and con’s Ethier vs Crawford going forward.

          • crash24now says:

            I would send Crawford and an airplane full of money for a competent backup infielder, such as Punto.

          • Dodger4life says:

            It looks like Crawford is owed about $10 million more than Andre over the course of the contract. $80M vs $70M roughly. Their age difference is about 7 months, again roughly. Their stats although with different dynamics, are roughly in the same neighborhood offensively.

          • Dodger4life says:

            I’m in no way disagreeing with you crash, just thinking out loud is all…

          • crash24now says:

            Dre is much better defensively, IMO.

          • Dodger4life says:

            I agree!! Much better!!

            How long can Ned keep Pederson down in AAA. They almost brought him up instead of Puig last season, and he is off to a great start so far this season.

            One would think if he comes up he gets playing time too.

  4. kahliforni says:

    Allow me to add a few. First quarter, Ned adds one (at least one, maybe more) mediocre bench player (Figgins), which means by year’s end, we should se three more useless PVLs arrive on the scene. First quarter, Ned sends down a great bullpen arm (Rodriguez) for business/options purposes. By year’s end, Ned will send down three more really good players in favor of aging grunts out of options. First quarter, 70% of fans miss 97% of the games on TV (thank you ESPN, Fox1 for what little you have given us). By year’s end, 70% of fans will see diddly squat on TV. And let’s not leave out Donnie. In the first quarter (roughly 40 games) Dodgers have used probably 40 different line-ups (and probably an equal number of batting orders). By year’s end? Get a calculator…and then talk about consistency of player performance, or lack thereof…

  5. Dodger4life says:

    Just in case you missed it….

    Earvin Magic Johnson ‏@MagicJohnson 11m
    Puig blasted a Home Run to lead the Dodgers in 6-5 win over the Marlins last night. Dan Haren has been an excellent addition to the bullpen!

  6. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Play Ball

  7. Dodger4life says:

    Let’s Go Dodgers, Let’s Go!!!
    .
    I’m hoping for a good game from Beckett, good location all night long.

    With good energy from the bats tonight.

  8. trublu4ever says:

    0-1…. inning ending DP!

  9. oldbrooklynfan says:

    A.Gon is slumping.

  10. oldbrooklynfan says:

    This guy Turner is doing a job on us, tonight.

  11. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Great hit for Hanley.

  12. oldbrooklynfan says:

    The merry-go-round continues wit CC & Turner.

  13. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Beckett did a good job. He deserves a win, if they can get it for him.

  14. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Not only is Puig’s mother happy so are we all with his RBI double.

  15. The Giants just lost.

  16. trublu4ever says:

    It was a good win last night. I am still concerned when Wright comes into a game. Let’s hope we can complete the sweep tonight.

    • JhallWally says:

      Woo-Hoo, win streak……
      Lately Tru, I am concerned with anyone from our bullpen….
      I guess it is a work in progress… They need too start making progress or we are hosed…..

      • trublu4ever says:

        Yep…who would have thought League would be okay and the rest questionable?! 🙂

        • JhallWally says:

          LOL Go figure… I guess you have to go with the hot hand….. I just wish we had a more dynamic manager capable of making these decisions….

          • trublu4ever says:

            I agree 100%. I keep thinking throughout the games how will Donnie blow this one?!

  17. Dodger4life says:

    I won’t say Beckett has been a total surprise. It seems he had several good outings last season become unraveled by a handful of bad pitch locations.

    So far this season, he has been outstanding. Props to him.

    If you haven’t seen Dodger Digest yet this morning… Take a look at Puig mocking AGon. The underlined caption says “Pure Gold”

    http://dodgersdigest.com/2014/05/13/dodgers-7-marlins-1-josh-beckett-is-good-yasiel-puig/

    Everyone’s having fun again… ‘Bout dang time!!

  18. oldbrooklynfan says:

    I hope the Dodgers know enough about DeSclafani to not have him look like he’s the next coming of the Marlins. I recall on other occasions when teams bring up a rookie to face the Dodgers and the Dodger can’t hit him.
    This is a time we really need a sweep so we can counter anything the Giants and Rockies do,

    • trublu4ever says:

      With Mahlolm going for us….it’s up for grabs. You watch, Donnie will put his rest-day lineup out there to boot!

      • Dodger4life says:

        Are you predicting an outfield of Figgins in center, Crawford in leftfield and Van Slyke in rightfield tonight, tru???

        Never mind, don’t answer that! I’m off to the liquor store! What brand of Tequila would you like me bring back? 🙂

        • trublu4ever says:

          Pretty close! 🙂

          • Dodger4life says:

            I’m back… You didn’t specify which brand you preferred, so I decided to go with some Cabo Wabo for old time sake’s.

            Now it’s up to the Boy’s to show us how we like to party!!
            .

    • Dodger4life says:

      I read up a bit on him OBF (just a quick assessment though). It looks like he has a good hard curve, and a fastball in the low 90’s. Coming out of college he had some control issues, that seems to have been corrected some since though. 2 walks per 9 now I think?

      If this video is any indication:

      It seems he likes to work rather rapidly. That being said and this being his 1st appearance on a grand stage, perhaps patience at the plate will be a virtue. He is going to make mistakes. Capitalizing when he does, while slowing his rhythm down a bit, may force him to maintain composer against the likes of proven MLB players, such as whomever Donnie trots out on the field tonight?

      I have a good feeling the momentum stays on our side of the ball field again tonight.

      • Dodger4life says:

        Have a little faith, they did some damage against the last youngster they faced. I forget who it was though?

  19. Dodger4life says:

    Randy Wolf exercised an opt-out clause with the D’Backs earlier this afternoon and has a new team just hours later. The Marlins have officially announced the signing of the Wasserman Media Group client to a one-year, Major League deal. Wolf will reportedly slot into Miami’s rotation, though it sounds like he’ll be backing up rookie Anthony DeSclafani in tonight’s game.

  20. crash24now says:

    AJ is back!

    Gordon 2b
    Puig rf
    Ramirez ss
    Gonzalez 1b
    Ethier cf
    Crawford lf
    Turner 3b
    Ellis c
    Maholm p

  21. Dodger4life says:

    No Kemp! I would of put him at third base, put Dre in Crawford’s place and called up Pederson!

    • Dodger4life says:

      I mean he is a 5 tool player, claims he can beat Magic in a game of one on one. Third base ought to be a cinch.

    • crash24now says:

      Hanley is bad enough. Could you imagine the holes we would have on the left side of the infield with Kemp at 3b and Hanley at ss?

      • Dodger4life says:

        I dunno, I’ve seen him field balls with much skill, that roll into the outfield. How hard can it be man, were talking about Matt (freakin’) Kemp. Uribe could become the valued bench bat and keep everything loosey goosey in the dugout. You know maybe fill in once in a while.

  22. Dodger4life says:

    Per Eric Stephen

    Miguel Olivo optioned to @ABQTopes. Similar to Chone Figgins earlier

  23. Dodger4life says:

    I’m trying to figure out what the Dodgers record is since enchanted announced he was going on a month long sabbatical?
    .
    If the Boy’s win tonight, enchanted will become MVP of the dang blog without even trying.

    I may even pen a song in his honor…

    • crash24now says:

      The Beav walked out after the May 8th loss to the Giants (first in the series). The Dodgers are 3-2 since then.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Open up a whole new record label…
      .
      Big E’s Sabbatical Studios

      • Dodger4life says:

        Okay then, maybe I’ll give it some more time.

      • Dodger4life says:

        That record label sounds kind’a wicked though, don’t it!

        • crash24now says:

          You’re gonna need some Ozzie Osbourne!

          • Dodger4life says:

            Perfect, crash!
            .
            I was just envisioning E sitting in his big ole office. Ya know it has one of them fake lagoons in it. Kind’a like the Mirage in Vegas. Anyhow, he’s just sitting in his office under some false palm trees, being fanned by some cute and young Dodger girls. Probably doesn’t even have to pen his own tunes anymore. He just dictates and Beyonce or someone sings into a recorder.
            .
            Man, I hope this thing works out… That way we can schedule another ITD/OTD tour and go see him. Imagine what his liquor cabinet looks like. Boy! Oh! Boy!
            .
            Maybe E will have the Rolling Stones or someone fly oldbrooklyn in this time as well.

          • Dodger4life says:

            My introduction to Ozzy; By D4

            Ozzy got me in big trouble my freshman year of high school. On the last day of the school year, kids were using black permanent markers writing his name on everything in sight. After a while of observing, I decided to join in on the mayhem. The vice principle busted me and me only. He asked me what Ozzy meant. I said I dunno? I was expelled for the first 3 days of the next school year.
            I was like are you kidding me, my punishment is extra summer vacation. Ozzy does rule!

  24. Dodger4life says:

    Knowing E, he’ll probably be an instrumental figure in bringing back the old 50’s sound with a modern twist. Sign him an all girl band and name them the Warm Fuzzy’s. Can’t ya’ just see them ladies now, all decked out with their bee-hives and pony tails, wearing them knee high socks, short skirts and comfy cardigans with the Big E stitched on the front.

  25. Dodger4life says:

    First things first though… The Boy’s need to keep rolling along and keep on racking up the wins…

    Plus, I need to cook some supper.
    .

    I hope to be back on later. That is if my PC will cooperate. Lately, I have a hard time multi-tasking during the broadcast.

    Not to mention hearing Vinny again, brings me back to my youth, sometimes all to far though. I have a tendency to drift off as I did when my parents used to put me in the car as a toddler and drive me to sleep.

    Enjoy the game everyone…

  26. Miami won
    .
    They beat Brooklyn tonight.

  27. trublu4ever says:

    Top of 1st….whew!

  28. The Dodgers have there work cut out for them

  29. trublu4ever says:

    I’m really glad Beav isn’t here tonight!

  30. crash24now says:

    Sloppy defense makes the work harder..

  31. Dodger4life says:

    Okay Donnie! Kemp doesn’t need two days off, put him in the game, take Crawford out and send him to Flagstaff ahead of the team. I know the team isn’t headed to Flagstaff, but there’s a good chance Crawford doesn’t. Dude looks lost in L.A.!!

  32. Dodger4life says:

    You could see Donnie shaking his head after Crawford made that error. Which begs the question, why does he continue to trot him out there?

  33. Reed Johnson must love to hit against us.

  34. Dodger4life says:

    Awe heck Donnie, take everyone out except Crawford, Maholm and Butera. We can try and trick the Marlins into thinking it’s a game of over the line.

  35. crash24now says:

    I would love to see Puig pitch tonight.

  36. Dodger4life says:

    We have 9 guys on the field and the Marlins are playing over the wall. Let’s rest 6 of them and play over the line.

  37. It’s not a good thing when the team implodes so early in the game. Gonna find something other than the NBA to watch tonight.

    • Dodger4life says:

      There’s bound to be some old re-runs of Leave it to Beaver, or I Love Lucy on spark. Or, my favorite, Bonanza… Bumdidy, bumdidy, bum, bum. Gee Paw! Little Joe is gonna run for Mayor of Dodge City. Just so he can rename the place something called DodgerTown!

  38. Puig 14 game hitting streak. Well at least that wasn’t stop.

  39. Scully doesn’t know it, but I’m keeping score.

    • Dodger4life says:

      I have never kept score of a game…which has me thinking. I need to purchase a book. It also has me wondering if DodgerEric, is using his time these days doing the same.

      . Oh, Yeah… you deserve another AttaBoy! Oldbrooklynfan!

  40. kahliforni says:

    Best way to stomach this team sometimes is to watch the Kings run in the Stanley Cups and thank the Time/Warner and the Guggenheims for not televising this trash.

  41. Crawford ties Andre in homers with 2.

  42. Terrific outing for Butera.

    • Dodger4life says:

      This was the highlight of the evening…Butera displayed a nice sinker/curve and hit 90+ on the gun.

  43. It was just one of those games when you get beat by a lot of runs and you only score a few but all in all it was just another loss.
    4 1/2 games back.

  44. Dodger4life says:

    Enchanted is right…this team may still be horrible a month from now!

    • trublu4ever says:

      If he is right, and, I’m beginning to believe he is, Mattingly will be out the door….contract or not. So, I see it as a silver lining. However, I also think Dre will be traded (much more value than CC) and that is a dark cloud for me, even though it will be great for him.

      • Dodger4life says:

        Ned claims he has no intention of trading one of his outfielders. That at some point one of them will become injured or just flat out fail to produce? He also claims that if such is not the case, having 4 outfielders, all producing, isn’t a problem.
        .
        According to an L.A.Times write-up.

        I understand the sentiment that if Mattingly can’t get these guys to produce, he should be replaced. I’m still behind winning the whole enchilada though. Even as y’all say, despite Donnie!

  45. Dodger4life says:

    Hats off to the kid who faced us last night though… He kept fooling one of the games best hitters in AGon with the hard curve/slider, which most of the time dropped out of the strike zone.

  46. Dodger4life says:

    The team need not worry about the Giants, Rockies or anyone else in the division. Akin to a golfer who fails to look at the scoreboard, and concentrates on the course ahead down the homestretch. Just worry about your game, against the days opponent. These guys have enough of a challenge in doing just that.

    • crash24now says:

      Likewise, don’t go off on “let’s pee in their pool”. Just win the games, one game at a time.

      • oldbrooklynfan says:

        I think that’s easier said than done. I thinks it’s in ours and the team’s nature to keep a daily watch on the other teams.
        BUT if you can keep your eyes off what the other teams are doing you’re a better man than I. It’s what they call tunnel vision or what you only see if you look down a pipe and not see outside it. or only see what’s in front of you and not what’s on the sides.
        Tough but if you can do it, good for you.

        • Dodger4life says:

          Obf, to be honest, I only pay attention to our team. I couldn’t tell you where any of the other ball clubs currently place in the standings. And could probably only name a few of they’re players.

          • Dodger4life says:

            I do research teams and players from time to time. Although, I have somehow trained myself to forget things easily these days. This doesn’t just apply to the game of baseball unfortunately.
            Just as an example, I’ve been celebrating my 50th birthday for years… I hope to celebrate it soon, when and if, (God Willing), it actually happens..

  47. kahliforni says:

    When we all look at the standings in September the Dodgers will be a playoff team–wild card or what have you. But honestly, I am not very interested in this bunch. Part of it is the TV nightmare, and part of it is the malaise of this team. I applaud the die-hards like oldbrooklyn and D4–I used to be like you, many Neds and Mattinglys ago–and I’d like to muster up the passion. But I can’t. The Dodgers I fell in love with in 1969 had ownership that kept prices down, the PA volume down, and the hype down. The O’Malleys created a nice getaway from reality. McCourt and Guggenheim was/are business-first entities that seem to forget that, at the end of the day, beyond all the sparkling do-dads, this is a kid’s game. Something is broken in Dodgerland. Maybe all pro sports are broken. Probably.

    • Dodger4life says:

      I have the same feeling towards the business part of the game. What amazes me is no matter how dysfunctional the leagues, the players and MLB, treat the fans (there’s too many things to describe them all), use the strike years as one example. The fans just forget and forgive and then continue to allow said business to go on as usual.

      Any business in the world would be ecstatic to have such control over their customers.

      The other thing that has me thinking…about the tv deal and what you describe above. Is just how far apart were the bids for the rights to broadcast the next 25, or so years of Dodger baseball? How much money is really keeping the loyal customers from the cherished likes of Vinny and the Boy’s in Blue. Are we talking 7 bone steak money, or prime-rib dollars. I mean, if Vinny has been hi-jacked, so to speak, for what amounts to 7 bone steak. That is just bad business in my opinion. And my assumption’s tend to lean towards the tougher cut to chew.

      • Dodger4life says:

        My point is that, foresight and wisdom may have been able to choose a plan that better suited the cherished and loyal followers of your/our beloved Dodgers.

        I must admit, it disheartens me, and take the moment to humbly apologize to have used Vinny and the Boy’s in Blue, in my analogy of the situation at hand.

        I wonder if those who employ the above mentioned treasures…feel the same way?

      • Dodger4life says:

        I thank you kahli, for the acknowledgement of my passion for the team. But, when it comes to preservation. Oldbrooklynfan stands alone in a league…most of us can only hope to achieve.

        And that…earns him another AttaBoy!

    • JhallWally says:

      Nicely stated Kahli… And, it echoes my sentiments. I can’t really get psyched about this team. And, a big part of that is the ownership and management… I can get behind the players, but, I cannot get behind what the Guggs are doing with the TV thing.. I cannot get behind a team that employs an imbecile for a GM and a moron for a manager.. I did not subscribe to MLB audio/TV this year because I am not into this current team. Starting at the top…..

  48. Dodger4life says:

    I think we should create a perseverance award…

    At the end of each series, the Dodger player who overcomes the most adversity, will be given the distinction of being the holder of the Oldbrooklynfan AttaBoy Award.

    • Dodger4life says:

      The honor of choosing the series.. award recipient, will come from the heart of oldbrooklynfan himself.

      It’s clearly his call. That is if he is willing to do so?

      • No, that would be too much for me to do, I’d rather keep doing what I’m doing. It’s enough to just follow the team during the games.
        Thanks anyway.

        • Dodger4life says:

          No worries, oldbrooklynfan… I wouldn’t want to do anything that your not comfortable with, or disrupt the enjoyment you receive through the games.

  49. kahliforni says:

    I second the motion, D4!!!

    • trublu4ever says:

      I agree also.

      • Dodger4life says:

        My next suggestion is…perhaps someone with some photoshop skills, design the award. Maybe dig up a photo of Oldbrooklynfan finally being reunited with the Dodgers in L.A.! Maybe the shot of him on the hill at Dodger Stadium or anything along those lines?

        Perhaps a short detail about adversity, perseverance and Oldbrooklynfan ..

        This is not my forte, so a little help would be appreciated.

        Our long lost friend, DodgerEric would be perfect for this detail.
        Although, I am sure there are many others with equal skills, it just seemed like something DodgerEric would enjoy doing? And that it would be nice to hear from him again!

        We can put the winner and the award on the next series post. (akin to the old MLB Top 100 thing)
        And of course, discussion about who deserves the series award. If any? Would always be welcomed.

        • trublu4ever says:

          That leaves me out …. I have no photoshop skills 🙂 I think last nights award should go to Vinny ….. he had to endure that fiasco and keep us willing to watch with his remarkable skills.

          • Dodger4life says:

            He did keep me in the game… or tuned into the game. Vinny was magnificent last night, I agree.

            Butera, was the highlight for me… that change up, followed by the 95 mile an hour fastball to end the game, brought a chuckle from the dugout and Vinny too.

          • trublu4ever says:

            So…we have co-atta boys 🙂

  50. Dodger4life says:

    Works for me 🙂

  51. Dodger4life says:

    Charles just keeps plugging along…

    Why not? He seems to be having fun!

  52. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Humm, 5 games back. I guess how far out that is all depends on how the Dodgers fare. If they stay inconsistent it may take a long time to make up the ground unless both the Giants and the D-backs collapse. So now the Dodgers have to go on a winning streak of some length to get back in it.
    It looks like a rough road ahead.

  53. Eight HR for Puig.

  54. Niice clutch hits by A,J, and Greinke.

  55. trublu4ever says:

    Wow…SVS too!

  56. My computer is running very slow,, so I’ll do the best I can.

  57. A.Gon hasn’t been hitting.

  58. Let’s go Beard.

  59. crash24now says:

    Puig is just a triple sort of going for the cycle tonight.

  60. trublu4ever says:

    Finally…a good game!

  61. The Marlins beat the Giants 7-5

  62. kahliforni says:

    Kings crush Ducks!! Kings are a gritty, tough bunch. So I got to thinking, which Dodgers are hard-nosed, won’t-take-losing kind of guys. I got Kershaw, Greinke, Beard, Puig. Kemp is close………..

    • messagebear says:

      I would add Ellis, but definitely drop Kemp. I don’t think Kemp is even close. I don;t know about the Beard – I hate the Beard and wish we didn’t have him; just another ex-Giant of Ned’s hoping.

  63. Dodger4life says:

    Dee-termined to succeed… I’d say our second baseman is making a good case.

  64. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Big win last night as they all are at this time. It’ll either mean we gain on the Giants and the Rockies or we keep pace with them. I hope the Dodgers don’t have trouble figuring out this rookie, Chase Anderson tonight, like they had with Anthony DeSclafani last Wednesday. They always seem to have some trouble with new pitchers.
    I’m going to Junior’s Restaurant today. They are planning to take it down temporally to build a a skyscraper. Junior’s is famous for it’s cheesecake and also for displaying Brooklyn Dodger photographs on the wall. I just hope they put the pictures back up when it returns.
    .

  65. Not a good inning for Kershaw.

  66. May 14th deja vu?

  67. trublu4ever says:

    Well, isn’t this fun tonight?!!!

  68. The Dodgers better get started before this game gets out of hand…(lol)

  69. messagebear says:

    Something must be wrong with Kersh. The only question is how long he’s done for.

  70. messagebear says:

    I wish we had brought in Tony LaRussa – he probably would have fired everybody in sight.
    FIRE NED; FIRE MATTINGLY – don’t ever bring Magic to Dodger Stadium!

  71. Tony LaRusso was hired today by the D-backs as Chiel baseball officer, Now the D-backs must think they’re the Cardinals

  72. Andre comes through 9-7.

  73. Dodger4life says:

    I was called away from the game, to help a family member. We were just starting the second inning…How did Kershaw give up all the runs? How did we get most of them back? I may have to re-watch this one later.

  74. trublu4ever says:

    Dumb-ass Donnie lets him throw to Goldie!!!!

  75. Withrow tried to throw it right past Goldy. Right over the plate. He hit it.

  76. Dodger4life says:

    That pitch was a mistake…A.J was set up low and outside. Withrow’s pitch…Very top of the zone and over the heart of the plate.

  77. We don’t have a decent bullpen.

  78. Dodger4life says:

    Rally Time!!!!
    .
    Let;s CRASH this party!!

  79. It’s Butera time.

  80. crash24now says:

    These games just keep getting uglier.

  81. The Giants and Rockies also lost so we remain 4 games out.

  82. Dodger4life says:

    Ned has to be texting like a mad man… I’ll trade you a pitcher and a catcher (to be named later), and two utilitymen (you name them), and a guy that can hit, and almost catch and throw. A bullpen guy not named Withrow, or my closer, what’s his name?

  83. Seriously the bullpen has shown us better days. We’ve always had a strong bullpen but at the moment it’s one of our weak spots. this has to be straightened out or the Dodgers won’t go anywhere.

    • Dodger4life says:

      Yes, it does.

      The D-Backs got to Kershaw, too though. I’ll give them some credit. They were dialed in, and they hit well last season.

  84. kahliforni says:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-tv-20140518-story.html

    I gotta say I’m guilty. Dodgers are fading in my life right now. When I was in high school, Vinny did the radio broadcasts every night, seven innings, he and Doggett; I listened to every game for decades. And, even sweeter, going to games and listening to Vinny on my transistor. Now, with no TV and little Vinny, what’s to miss?

  85. grizzy says:

    Only counts as one, as Alston said after a major ass kicking in Cincinnati.
    *
    Pretty disgusting having a catcher pitch this often. This is why I no longer travel to the games. It’s expensive and chances are you are not going to see a major league effort. Maybe this will turn around, but I do not see why anyone would go to a Dodger game the first two months of the season.

    • messagebear says:

      In this day and age I don’t see why anybody would want to line the pockets of this Guggenheim group. I hold them individually responsible for the lack of televised games, and in many respects they’re far worse than the McCourts ever were. Of course, the McCourts are not gone, only hidden, through their collusion to get the franchise to the Guggenheims. The major blame, of course, goes to Bud Selig who’s been a f”ing wimp through his whole tenure.

  86. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Yes sometimes it gets to feel like somewhat of a grind when the team is struggling but it’s a part of our lives and when you got a lot of time on your hands it takes up a lot of it.
    I follow the team the same way in good times and bad . They’ll go through good times, bad times and in between times but I keep up with them no matter what.
    I’ll be at City Field from Tuesday to Thursday this week and win, lose or draw I’ll find a way to enjoy myself.

  87. grizzy says:

    oldbrooklyn-I do admire the way you hung in there with the Dodgers,even after deserting you for LA. At one time I was also a big Rams fan, but gave them up once they left for Missouri. My interest in them just went away.

  88. Although Hanley’s only hitting .254 that’s his 6th HR.

  89. A rough game but at least we’re still in it.

  90. Eric Chavez didn’t even start this game.

  91. trublu4ever says:

    It keeps getting worse.

  92. messagebear says:

    I wish Matt would take it out by smashing Donnie’s head into the cooler.

  93. Actually IMO Haren didn’t do that bad. Except for a few bad pitches.

  94. Maybe they should keep League in there until he screws up.

  95. It’s up to Andre

  96. Another day that’s not ours.

  97. trublu4ever says:

    Phooey!

  98. kahliforni says:

    Yawn…and our manager has this team a robust one game better than break-even ball as we approach June. Very nice.

  99. Dodger4life says:

    There sure aren’t many things about this season that are pleasant to watch. Donnie and Wallach seem to be no different than Donnie and Hillman. The bullpen is horrendous, everyone has struggled. Donnie’s uninspiring style of play has now trickled over to the front end of the pitching staff, somewhat. Kershaw was down for a while and his arm may need some tuning, Ryu was down and who knows what shape his delivery is in? Haren made costly mistakes…Ma’whom is dangling by a thread! The minor league prospects don’t show much promise for relief soon. And it’s only June…injuries are still on the horizon, which will make it even harder to climb out of whatever hole they eventually finish digging…and yes, they are still digging.

    I know hindsight is 20/20, but with Gordon’s ability to bunt for a base hit these days…And the right side of the infield playing deep (or not), in a tight game needing runs to stay alive. Why not execute this option to get to what may be…the games best offensive player in Puig. Who can change it with the swing of his bat?

  100. JhallWally says:

    Get used to it Dodger faithful… This team is flawed from the front office on down to the field…

    The bullpen sucks, the bench sucks, the defense sucks, and the offense sucks…

    Not exactly a winning formula…. And we thought the Guggs and Kasten knew what they were doing…

    I’m waiting for their grand plan to come to fruition….. ….. ….. Yep, still waiting……. ……….. Geez!!! What a bunch of morons….

  101. JhallWally says:

    I can see it coming now… The Dodgers will fire the hitting coach or the bench coach.. And maybe a base coach or two… But, they will once again miss the point… You need to fire Nedcompoop and Dildon…. They both suck and we will not win a WS with them on board… This team needs to go in another direction… Unfortunately, this probably means the ownership as well….

    • trublu4ever says:

      I think Donnie will be fired…no Puig to save his ass this time! There are rumblings that the players really do not like him.

      • JhallWally says:

        🙂 LOL!! Yep Tru, there is no Puig coming along to save Dildon this time… We suck right now and if we continue to suck, the consolation I can take is that maybe Dildon and Nedcompoop will be shown the door. It should have happened 3 years ago…

  102. messagebear says:

    And by all means take a look at another of the Guggenheim promises – to upgrade the whole farm system for the Dodgers.
    So far each of our four minor league affiliates is playing under ,500 ball, some way under .500. So, where art thou, Guggenheimers, you incompetent bastards?
    Oh, and yes, Kasten can obviously run a baseball enterprise NOT!

  103. oldbrooklynfan says:

    The Dodgers are coming to my town tomorrow and my buddy’s TBW, Ron Fansince 53 & 85 along with a party of Mets fans will join me at Citi field for the 3 game series. I hope our presence brings some very badly needed luck to the Dodgers.

  104. kahliforni says:

    Alex Guerrero needs to be on this club. He’s raking. I know he’s learning a new position…but in effect, so is Gordon. Maybe even the kid shortstop, as well. This defense is abominable. Figgins alone should get Ned fired…oh hell, this whole bench and bullpen should get Ned fired. His philosophy of waiting two months to “find out what you need,” is laughable. What other GM touts that kind of nonsense? And what made management think Mattingly was going to morph into a managerial powerhouse after all these mediocre years? Because he whined and pouted about being a lame duck? That passion play should have told Kasten everything he needed to know about the Donnie’s grit and leadership. Pardon my living in the past, but Lasorda and Campanis would have this team steamrolling by now. I know I sound like sour grapes because the team is scuffling along…but nothing is changing year to year under Ned and Donnie.

    • messagebear says:

      I expect that in this day and age it’s the business mechanics rather than player mechanics and accomplishment that dictates who comes up to the major leagues when. Bring up Pederson, bring up Guerrero, and that probably shortens the time before they’re eligible for arbitration, so it reduces the club control. That’s how these equity investor types and Ned think and operate.

      • kahliforni says:

        Can’t argue there. And on the flip side, the Dodgers don’t want to risk losing a PVL (defined as a marginal player who will bolt if demoted), either, being as dominant and productive as they’ve been for this team so far…?!??!?!?!

        • Dodger4life says:

          After this season, Guerrero can’t be optioned to the minors. So, when he comes up there’s no sense in yo-yo-ing him back and forth. But Figgins player/coach spot, he could fill.

          Ned needs to find someone to assist in the bullpen…Ma’whom ain’t gonna work, what’s his role…the long reliever who can’t get anyone out? Besides we already have Jamie Wright! Has anyone seen Waldo Paco?

          Wilson needs a CT Scan, a Psych eval, an MRI, and a shave. Every time he pitches…I wonder if the weight of his beard is throwing his delivery to the left?

          If we could use Pederson’s defense in the outfield, I’d say, “even know he could go to arbitration early…bring his bat-up”. But, we’re platooning two good bats, and two good, expensive arms already.

          Expect to see Turner play, as he returns to N.Y….

          If we use only Beckett & League tomorrow…it will be a low scoring game.

          P.S. – You should be able to tell how focused the players are, by how well they follow the base-coach’s directions, or, hit the catchers intended target.

  105. lbirken says:

    Seems like little has changed for the Dodgers and the fans. The talent seems to be there but the results on the field don’t measure up to the talent. There is still plenty of time for this team to make a move and hopefully that will happen.

  106. kahliforni says:

    lbirk, I always consider you the calming voice of patience. But I’m curious. If you had your druthers, would Mattingly be your manager? I have no agenda here…just respect your opinion.

  107. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well as much as the Dodgers suck and I doubt if any changes will be made, I’ll be out there in person tonight to watch my beloved bums take on my home town Mets. It will be good to be out there win or lose but a lot better if we win. I’ll be wearing my Dodger road jersey and a baseball to be autographed. I’ll be back there tomorrow and Thursday hoping we can win a few.

    • messagebear says:

      If I may be nosy, can I ask you how much a ticket at the Mets costs these days? I think that most clubs have now priced their tickets beyond the range that a family of four can any longer afford. In LA without any TV coverage I think that will reduce the number of youngsters getting exposed to the Dodgers, which is a shame. If it wasn’t for old Channel 9 broadcasting the Brooklyn games back in the 50’s I probably wouldn’t have become a Dodger fan.

      In any case, enjoy the games, and may your rooting give us a series win.

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