The test begins…Nationals in town

While a 2 game winning streak is a beginning, the Dodgers have a long way to go just to get back to .500, let alone rise to the top of the division.

The Washington Nationals will be the first hurdle for the Dodgers. Keep those positive vibes coming…

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211 Responses to The test begins…Nationals in town

  1. messagebear says:

    Just because we won two in a row don’t forget to
    FIRE DONNIE!

  2. trublu4ever says:

    We have a big mountain to climb tonight!

  3. I can see why Beckett was afraid to throw a strike.

  4. Dodger4life says:

    Well Beckett doesn’t have it tonight/this year…Gotta bang some balls around and score some runs to get a win tonight!!

  5. Cruz reminds me of myself just before I decided to stop playing hardball, I just kept grounding out every time up. The pitchers just lobbed it in. Occasionally I flied out.

  6. vl4eccjr says:

    Holy crap!
    Just get rid of Beckett already!

  7. Dodger4life says:

    Pull your starter with an era of 5.37 after 3 innings and pinch hit with a guy who has a BA of .88, only to bring in a non long reliever with an era of 9.00…

    • Dodger4life says:

      Here’s 3 spots on the roster that are wasted!!!
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      Throw in Hernandez and his .43 BA and we should have a fourth opening!!

  8. Dee’s going, I’m sure.

  9. No doubt about that.

  10. trublu4ever says:

    Well, that was a wasted inning!

  11. The Nats just found out why we ain’t winning like they are.

  12. Dee must’ve messed up Schumaker on that play, he should’ve left it alone.

  13. vl4eccjr says:

    When it rains, it pours!

  14. We’re looking bad.

  15. Dodger4life says:

    Combined the two pitchers for the Dodgers have thrown over 100 pitches after 4 and a third innings…

  16. vl4eccjr says:

    Well that could have been much worse.
    The old suck-o-meter is still running high in the red though. . . .
    😦

  17. Dodger4life says:

    Forget trying to play spirited, these guys are too busy playing spooked baseball…
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    BOO!!!

  18. trublu4ever says:

    Wow..Harper hit that wall hard!

  19. Harper is one of the best, I’m sure he’ll be all right.

  20. 32and53fan says:

    So far, the Dodgers are failing the test, BIG TIME!
    I guess I am lucky that my wife has me recording two shows right now, so I can’t see the horrors that are unfolding. I have been forced to listen to Steiner and Monday and use my imagination to see the bloody details.

  21. vl4eccjr says:

    Hallelujah! A run!

  22. lbirken says:

    Hope Harper is ok. He plays as hard as anyone in the game.

  23. lbirken says:

    Dodger pitching tonight leaves a lot to be desired. The Dodgers needed a strong performance tonight but unfortunately Beckett set the tone early with his ineffectiveness.

  24. I notice Crawford hits a lot to the opposite field,

  25. trublu4ever says:

    The right field wall has been placed on the 15 day DL…thanks to Harper …courtesy of one of my friends 😉

  26. 32and53fan says:

    Manny being Manny in Japan

  27. Dodgers are 0-9 w RISP tonight, according to my count,

  28. Dodger4life says:

    Beckett may have set the tone with a lousy outing…but Ned stocked the bullpen with lousy relievers…

  29. Dodger4life says:

    Wake me up at the trade deadline so I can say goodbye to Andre….

  30. crash24now says:

    Donnie has finally figured out the proper use of GrrrRear.

  31. In case anyone didn’t notice, Howell, Belisario and Guerrier all pitched well tonight.

  32. Dodger4life says:

    How many people on the current roster wouldn’t be picked up by another ballclub if they were released today…restrictions nonwithstanding???

    • Dodger4life says:

      It’s amost a given Cruz and Hernandez will have a game of checkers scheduled in the dugout come game time tomorrow!

  33. vl4eccjr says:

    Another stinker!

  34. Here’s hoping we can get a win behind Kershaw tomorrow night.

  35. trublu4ever says:

    Guess who may be going on the DL? Easy….Beckett….no surprise here!

  36. JhallWally says:

    Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Another stinkier……….

    This team sucks… Why is Nedcompoop still employed????????

  37. JhallWally says:

    All the money to pay out the contracts of Beckett, Crawford, and Gonzales would have been better spent on player development and our minor league system…..I am not impressed with our new ownership…….

  38. messagebear says:

    Exactly right, jhall!

    If I wanted to cheer on Becket, Crawford, and Gonzalez I would have been a Red Sox fan. The only times I’ve cheered for the Red Sox, and then very mildly, was when they played the Yankees. I have no interest in their shed off players on our Dodgers’ squad. The sooner they’re all gone, the better. I want to follow our own group of real prospects. I’m not seeing too many at ABQ, or at AA, or lower levels. I’d like to see that development emphasized instead of bringing in a bunch of guys who will be sliding down the career hill soon enough, if not already.

    And FIRE, NED AND DONNIE to show your commitment to change.

  39. crash24now says:

    The mirage of the Miami Marlins series win shows that this team can only compete with AAA or AAAA teams. Put Beckett on the forever DL along with Lilly, and let Magill stay up and see if he can do the job.

    Don’t be surprised if Kershaw doesn’t sign a long-term deal with the Dodgers. He may not have the patience to wait through the rebuilding years of 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016….

  40. kahliforni says:

    The Dodger roster is good enough to win. Plenty of telent. Something else is amiss. That James Loney is hitting .376 with 3 HR and 20 RBI in Tampa Bay tells me a lot. Somehow, some way, the current climate on the bench/in the clubhouse/upstairs is just not right. The baseball world can apologize for Mattingly all it wants. But it’s not working. Period. And it’s not working to a very ugly and alarming degree.

  41. I’m taking it one game at a time. For tonight I’m hoping Kershaw keeps his pitch count down and des bums can score enough runs to suppoert him against Haren and who ever else comes in for the Nats.

  42. messagebear says:

    Absolutely right about the apologists for Mattingly. Who should really care about how suited he is for this group of players and how the players react to him – this combination is playing well under .500 ball. The combination needs to be broken up; things need to be shaken up; make guys like Kemp and Andre unhappy and mad – then maybe they’ll come off their comfort zone and actually start playing like it means something.

    Talk about Loney – I can see the same thing happening with Andre; he’ll wind up someplace else and will have to prove again that he doesn’t have it made in the major leagues just because somebody was stupid enough to give him a huge undeserved contract. He might have to prove again every day that he still belongs, and the same for Kemp. Kemp is as lackluster as anybody else on this club. He doesn’t need being kowtowed to – somebody really needs to get his dander up; then maybe he’ll find his power again. What a waste of big disappointment big league PUSSIES!

  43. grizzy says:

    I’ve never felt as strongly about Ned, Donny and our under performers, but at this point how could I possibly disagree?

  44. Dodger4life says:

    Categories of talent

    Well paid and proven in the past talent

    Kershaw
    Greinke
    Kemp
    Crawford
    Agon
    Ethier
    Ramirez

    Over rated and relied upon talent

    Belisario
    League
    Beckett
    Uribe

    We have no one else in the system right now talent

    Guerrier
    Guerra
    Cruz
    Sellers
    Magill
    Fife

    AAA talent

    Gordon
    Federowicz
    Van Slyke

    Younger up and coming talent

    Jansen
    Rodriguez

    Steady to date, talent

    Ellis
    Punto
    Ellis

    New and improved talent

    Ryu
    McGwire

    Suspect, yet relied upon talent

    Howell
    Capuano
    Schumaker

    So much talent we carry a third backstop

    Hernandez

    Forgotten talent

    Billingsley
    Tolleson
    Elbert

    Ingenious and invaluable talent

    Colletti
    Mattingly
    Honeycutt
    Hillman

    Untapped talent

    Lopes

  45. kahliforni says:

    Best use of existing “talent:”

    Ned–PR guy, Gnats
    Donnie–Bench Coach, Yankees
    McGwire–Banquet circuit, the evils of PEDs
    Wallach or Lopes–Interim Manager, Dodgers

    • Dodger4life says:

      Can we add to your category

      Conte – Witch Doctor, of international scouting and development in Zimbabwe

  46. messagebear says:

    That is SO GOOD, kahli!
    I wish the ownership would do something like that NOW!
    I got to believe it would really energize the fans.

  47. lbirken says:

    Anyone following the Angels right now? I normally don’t follow the Angels but I find their situation so similar to the Dodgers down to under achieving high priced talent, a depleted minor league system and questions about the manager.

    By the way, I am a big Lopes fan as well but he never had any success as a manager. If I had to choose between him and Wallach, it would choose Wallach. However, there is no assurance he can get any more out of these players than what Donnie is getting.

    That being said, I would be surprised if the Dodgers made a manager change during the season. However, if the Dodgers fail to make the playoffs with the talent they have (or might acquire later), I think ownership has to make some changes.

    • kahliforni says:

      lbirk, I agree, I don’t think they’ll move Mattingly this season because his supporters will always cry injuries. But honestly, you and I have been watching this team for nearly half a century, and what we’re seeing here, today, is not something Mattingly, or the front office, should be proud of. All emotion aside, Mattingly is not getting the job done. The team looks awful.

  48. messagebear says:

    Good analogy with the Angels. I saw a writeup a few days ago saying that Moreno was furious about the Angels’ season so far, and, of course, there are as many Angels’ fans screaming for Scoscias’ head as we have wanting to see Donnie’s head roll. I would agree that our owners will be “deliberate” on their manager decision based on results over the whole season – at least they didn’t jump in and extend his contract in the off-season. I understand that Scoscia’s contract runs for another five years, and Moreno would have to eat about $10 million if he decided to can his manager.

    Firing the manager doesn’t necessarily change things all that much, but I’d just like to see things shaken up at this point – that is a fan’s prerogative, and I admit that I never liked the idea of Torre being able to vest his successor, nor liked Donnie (the old Yankee) personally.

    So, I would like to see heads roll – Donnie’s for one, and I’ve had it in for Ned even longer than that. What’s another season of waiting? It just gives me more time for imagining both of them hung from the nearest lamppost and then dragged through the streets.

    • 32and53fan says:

      It was during the 1946 season that (Dodgers manager) Leo Durocher made another one of his “philosophic” observations. It happened in the Polo Grounds, while Ed Stanky, the Dodgers’ scrappy second baseman who now (1955) manages the Cardinals, was taking his practice licks. A sportswriter asked Durocher what was the matter with the Giants, then in the doldrums under Mel Ott, a great player but a failure as a manager. Durocher pointed at Stanky. “Look at him,” he said. “He can’t hit, he can’t run, he can’t throw—all he can do is beat you.” Then, pointing over to the Giant bench, Leo said, “There’s Mel Ott, take a good look at him. A nicer guy never put a pair of shoes on. Fine fellow. But he didn’t come to win. That’s the answer. Nice guys finish last.”*

      Sound familiar?

      (From Sports Illustrated, May 30, 1955)
      http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1129702/1/index.htm

      *”Perhaps Durocher’s greatest contribution to baseball lore was his oft-quoted maxim “Nice guys finish last,” which has made it into Bartlett’s. However, as Mr. Eskenazi reminds us, Durocher didn’t say it quite that way. While managing the Dodgers in 1946, Mr. Eskenazi writes, Durocher peered into the Giants’ dugout and talked about their manager with the Dodgers’ broadcaster Red Barber: “Do you know a nicer guy in the world than Mel Ott? He’s a nice guy. In last place. Where am I? In first place. I’m in first place. The nice guys are over there in last place, not in this dugout.” Headline writers boiled it down for convenience, Mr. Eskenazi says.”

      (From the book, “The Lip” by Gerald Ashkenazi, as reviewed in The New York Times, April 4, 1993)
      http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/04/books/baseball-a-bad-guy-who-finished-first.html

  49. trublu4ever says:

    Ned did it again….yes, he is going to sign former Gnat,Jonathan Sanchez….good grief!

  50. ZonaDodger says:

    Sanchez hmmmmm…F the gnat but can he be any worse then Beckett? Maybe i’m wrong lol

  51. ZonaDodger says:

    I see where your coming from tru 🙂

  52. I just heard that Greinke is starting tomorrow night against the Nationals. Big mistake, IMHO.

  53. crash24now says:

    Kershaw is getting squeezed by the ump, but Kershaw took matters into his own hands by fooling Moore with the curve ball.

  54. crash24now says:

    Looks like Donnie finally accepted the fact that Kemp has a power outage and is batting him second. Not a bad decision, given the circumstances. Too bad we have no one with power to bat clean up.

  55. Why do they have to bang those drums?

  56. trublu4ever says:

    Boy…do these umpires have something against Kersh?! A phantom balk now! Even the opposing announcers didn’t see it!

  57. Wow, we have a lead.

  58. trublu4ever says:

    My boy!

  59. crash24now says:

    Andre gets the job done. Let’s see if he can do it again.

  60. Nice to see Andre come through.

  61. vl4eccjr says:

    What’dya know? Dre delivers!

  62. I had Scully on MLB.TV but something happened and I just lost it and can’t get it back. But I’m glad I have MLB Extra Inning so I switched on the T,V. I’ll have to cope with the Nats announcers.

  63. trublu4ever says:

    11 Ks for the Kid!

  64. The pitch count is climbing for Clayton. and this is a big AB for Perez.

  65. The Dodgers have to give Haren some work.

  66. I would hate to see League next inning.

  67. vl4eccjr says:

    Donnie must have lost faith in the bullpen leaving Kersh in.

  68. Here we go, Com’on Clayton.

  69. vl4eccjr says:

    Okay Kenley!
    Just do it!

  70. 132 pitchers for the man, what an outstanding performance.
    Let’s go Kenley, save it..

  71. trublu4ever says:

    Yes!

  72. Y E S………a great performance.
    and nice going Jansen.

  73. vl4eccjr says:

    I know it’s been said before, but I’ll say it again.
    League & Jansen need to switch roles!

  74. crash24now says:

    Another excellent game by Kershaw.

  75. Dodger4life says:

    Good Morning Everyone…

    I’m so glad Kershaw, (Bleeds Blue)!!

    It makes me want to….

    Woke up feeling like a Kemp Bobblehead figurine,
    Used that headbob thing to start my routine…

    Two lil’ kids with a flow you ain’t ever heard
    And none faking you can understand every word
    As you listen to their cool school melody
    These Dodgers make you J-U-M-P

    Rubber Game Tonight

    Ummm… the other day I had a ricochet biscuit. A ricochet biscuit is the
    Kind of a biscuit that’s supposed to bounce back off the wall into your
    Mouth. If it don’t bounce back, hee hee hee,… you go hungry!

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    Let’s make this a…(Successful and Greinke Day!!!)

    • crash24now says:

      Greinke is like a ricochet biscuit…if he don’t bounce back after his injury, we all gonna go hungry….for wins!

      • Dodger4life says:

        Such is true, crash…Greinke seems like a smart guy, I think he knows his abilities, I believe he knows how to pitch, I am sure he knows all of the pifalls involved…He is going to need some help tonight, I think, and I am hopefully optimistic he will get it!!

        • crash24now says:

          Historically, Kemp, Ethier and Gonzalez have all done well against Detwiler. It’s going to be up to those three, plus Crawford, to put up some runs on the board for Greinke.

          I’ve read that Mark Ellis and Jerry Hairston are on their way back, but they may be still a few to several days away from being off the DL.

  76. This is the day we’ve all been waiting for. For a couple of weeks we wondered and debated if Greinke is coming back to soon. Personally, I don’t know and am taking my usual stance of just waiting and seeing. Well in about 9 hours or so the wait will be over and we’ll get to see how it all comes out.
    Keep your fingers crossed.

    • crash24now says:

      “The Dodgers are hitting .296 as a team with runners in scoring position, which no surprise is the worst figure in baseball.”

      We WISH we were hitting .296 with RISP.

      The actual numbers:

      Dodgers BA with RISP is .223 – NL average is .250
      Dodgers slugging with RISP is .296 – NL average is .381

    • Dodger4life says:

      The only argument’s made by the author as to why Donnie is a good tactical manager, or, not…are these two small paragraph’s

      Donnie Baseball not only has a great nickname, but he is hard working, has integrity and baseball know-how. He also fulfills their wish to have stars. While he is self-effacing, he certainly is that.

      Is he Tony La Russa yet? No, probably not. But among the recent spate of hires, he’s certainly in the top half. And he certainly shouldn’t be held accountable for a few-week slump to start the season.

      Of course Ned claims that Donnie doesn’t hit the ball, so he shouldn’t be held accountable. As this was uncovered during a poll of the players, that was conducted by upper management.

      The guy selling Cool-a-Koo’s doesn’t hit the baseball either, and if a poll was conducted by upper management, I am certain they would find that he is a real likable guy among those polled, players, or, not!! He has a great nickname as well, he must be hardworking to climb all those stairs, integrity and baseball know-how, well, maybe Donnie has him beat in that category and maybe not??

      If you are gonna make a case for keeping a manager, come up with something more substantial than this please….

      My favorite quote comes from Ned…”It’s a matter of being able to focus and execute. That’s not on the manager!”

  77. 32and53fan says:

    With the steel plate and the screws holding the collarbone together, it would take a pretty big force to separate the bone at the fracture point. I don’t know if the plate would make a new fracture at both ends of it more likely.

    I hope Zach can calibrate his command quickly and throw strikes where he intends them to go.

  78. trublu4ever says:

    As I mentioned yesterday…Jonathan Sanchez (ex-gnat) passed physical and will soon be a Dodger.

  79. crash24now says:

    Beckett’s on the DL! But where is Crawford?

    Gordon SS
    Punto 2B
    Kemp CF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Ellis C
    Ethier RF
    Van Slyke LF
    Uribe 3B
    Greinke P

  80. LET’S GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  81. trublu4ever says:

    YAY…we score first!

  82. ! for 1 with RISP, good start, eh?

  83. vl4eccjr says:

    Welcome back Zack!

  84. vl4eccjr says:

    Sheeeit!
    Scott got robbed!!

  85. Well we threathened there, but no dice.

  86. koufax1963 says:

    Jonathan Sanchez, another player that does best in fog, NED you aren’t even trying to find pitching farther than your old school, there were so many good former padre pitchers out there that could of produced. Prove me wrong.

  87. vl4eccjr says:

    Ouch!

  88. Well they got one back.

  89. I guess Greinke was on a pitch count.

  90. Is Donnie looking for a way to lose the lead?

  91. crash24now says:

    Oh geez, why are we being subjected to GrrrRear?

  92. I’m glad we won’t see Seammen anymore, he was tough.

  93. crash24now says:

    Donnie’s gone nutzo with his bullpen use tonight. What is it – one batter per reliever?

  94. Y E S, Span out stealing.

  95. crash24now says:

    Sure could use a couple more runs…

  96. crash24now says:

    I have a great fear that we will see League in the ninth.

  97. crash24now says:

    First and third no outs…. this would only end in zero runs if it were the Dodgers offense.

  98. This doesn’t look good.

  99. vl4eccjr says:

    WHEW!!
    Talk about walking the tightrope!!

  100. vl4eccjr says:

    If League is closing, we definitely need some more runs. . .

  101. We need more runs before league gets in there.

  102. crash24now says:

    Kemp gets us started. Nice hit and nice steal!

  103. crash24now says:

    Rally caps P P P P P P P

  104. crash24now says:

    Crawford brings in one!!!

  105. Good going CC, that’ll help.

  106. crash24now says:

    Looking for FedEx to Deliver!

  107. crash24now says:

    On pins and needles with League pitching the ninth.

  108. trublu4ever says:

    Yes…2 in a row….way to go!

    • JhallWally says:

      Woo-Hoo, a real win streak!!!!

      Welcome back Greinke……. Nice job. And the bullpen didn’t give it away for a change…

  109. crash24now says:

    Zero walks by Greinke tonight. That sure helps a lot.

  110. vl4eccjr says:

    Back to back series wins!
    It’s been so long!!

  111. WOW that was a great win. They held on to win.

    I lost control of my computer for several minutes.
    I booted it but it took a while to come back.

  112. Howell and Guerrier recorded their second HOLD, while Paco got his sixth and Jansen his eight. along with Leagues ninth SAVE. This game was like old times.
    It’s good to have Greinke back.
    GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  113. grizzy says:

    Shows you what I know.
    *
    Two good series in a row. Now let’s get the season out of the dumper.

  114. Dodger4life says:

    Woo-Hoo

    Gotta win the home stands…

    And with the hole we’ve dug, we gotta battle hard and win the road games as well…

    Let’s Go Dodgers, Let’s Go!!

  115. Dodger4life says:

    With Kershaw, Greinke and Ryu back together, we have a chance to win games…Hopefully Capuano and the offense can give us a boost back to respectability…

  116. crash24now says:

    A 3-3 road trip would be a moral victory, but a 4-2 or better road trip would be a true victory. Let’s go Dodgers!

  117. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Last night’s game was a struggle but it turned out to be a very satisfying victory. I know we all shared a sigh of relief when League got through the 9th without further damage. That one hit scared the hell out of all of us but thank the lord that was it.
    I’m just hoping these kind of games that we won on Tuesday and Wednesday can put a spark in the team and can be the start of something positive.

    • messagebear says:

      Yes, nothing helps like winning. There’s no doubt that we have a lot of pieces on this team that should spell victory. Crawford has been a pleasant surprise for me after his results of last year and the surgery. Kemp’s average keeps going up, and maybe the power will return. Actually Punto has been a good surprise as well, and A.J. Ellis is doing a good job. If we can get Andre to come back to his normal career statistics and clutch performance, we really have the makings of a very good team.
      You’re a guy who’s always keeping up the optimism, and some of us sometimes tend to forget the good side of things. So, way to go OBF, and maybe we’ll make something of this season yet – in spite of Ned and Donnie.

      • kahliforni says:

        bear, as a forever Dodger fan, relishing losses so Ned and Donnie will leave is not a pleasant or enjoyable way to spend the summer. That’s why I’m extra frustrated with these two. Any Dodger success will be in spite of them…in my trivial opinion.

    • 32and53fan says:

      Having Greinke back and pitching well is key to any chance the Dodgers have to prevail in the division.  After Kershaw, Greinke, and Ryu, the rest of the starters are a crap shoot.  It is wishful thinking that Lilly and Beckett can regain their command, or that Capuano can consistently provide quality starts.  Yesterday, I saw this in an MLB blog:”And then we have Josh Beckett. Chris Jackson of the Albuquerque Examiner tweeted this out on May 14:”Not gonna make #Dodgers fans feel any better, but a veteran baseball man told me today that Beckett “is done, completely done” as a pitcher.”One can only hope that Beckett’s problems stem from whatever minor (or major?) discomforts he may have, and that some time off can heal.  Let’s hope this “veteran baseball man” is wrong.  Of course we know hope is for fools, but what is the alternative?

      • crash24now says:

        Both the #4 and #5 roles in the rotation will have to be filled by some combination of the following: Capuano (ok sometimes), Magill (not ready for MLB), Zach Lee (not ready for MLB), Lilly (done??), Beckett (done???), Fife(health??).

        All of this puts the team in a position where they have to decide on July 31st whether or not to trade for another quality starter.

  118. lbirken says:

    The past two games with Kershaw and Greinke on the mound have been great to watch even if the offense still struggles. Fortunately, the Nationals had similar struggles. This trip to Atlanta will be another big challenge. So far the Dodgers have not been able to maintain any positive momentum and the road has not been kind to the boys. I for one will hope this trend changes.

  119. grizzy says:

    I tend to think Becket has a little left in the tank, but he’ll need to rid himself of these nagging injuries. Don’t give up on him quite yet.

  120. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well it’s off to Atlanta to play the Braves in a couple of hours and as for tonight’s game I feel some comfort that Ryu is pitching, I wish I had that much faith in Capuano.

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