CRUNCH TIME!

CRUNCH TIME!

May the Gods smile on us this weekend!

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195 Responses to CRUNCH TIME!

  1. trublu4ever says:

    Dear Lord, may our bats come alive and our pitchers keep us in these games…..thank-you!

  2. crzblue says:

    Amaaamen aaaamen aaaanen amen amen !

  3. grizzy says:

    I’ll say it again. Time to put up or shut up! Win the series!!!!

  4. crash24now says:

    Damn it all!

    I was going to say: [I may burn in hell for this, but whatever] …and may Donnie keep his head out of his ass.

    But now the lineup comes through with Kennedy instead of Cruz – I was too damn late!!! Donnie’s already got his head in his ass.

  5. messagebear says:

    Actually I always thought that Donnie’s head was up Joe’s ass.

  6. Hi OTD
    Big game tonight.///no kidding/// Haha.

  7. It’s hard to believe Brian Wilson’s beard is real.

  8. trublu4ever says:

    Quick, give Timmy some of Panda’s doughnuts! Skinny little shit!

  9. Dodgers have drawn two walks in the first two innings.

  10. trublu4ever says:

    Some good news….Pirates got bombed by Cubbies 12 – 2!

  11. Make that 3, very unusual for them.

  12. trublu4ever says:

    One run is better than nothing, I guess. Should have had more….next at bat!

  13. DodgerZona says:

    Hi all…Let’s sweep these Gnats

  14. WTG MATT!!! and thanks to Pablo.

  15. DodgerZona says:

    Looking forward for another 5 yrs of Neddie LMAO….NOT

  16. DodgerZona says:

    Nice going Matt

  17. DodgerZona says:

    Come on Josh…Looking good so far keep it up

  18. trublu4ever says:

    Damn.

  19. Amazing how quickly we lose our leads.

  20. trublu4ever says:

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    Damn, Gnats, I’m putting a hex on you!

  21. crash24now says:

    Hi there! Our turn again…looking for some runs.

  22. For 5 consecutive innings Lincecum has given up a walk.

  23. DodgerZona says:

    funk o ya…Come on boys runs

  24. trublu4ever says:

    Josh, once again, pitching a good game…..with no run support to this point….let’s do this Dodgers!

  25. It’s 2-1 St. Lou in Milwaukee. Come on Brewers!!!

  26. crash24now says:

    I’d like a Hanley and/or a Dre bomb about now…

  27. trublu4ever says:

    Good grief…WTF is going on with us?! Awful, awful, awful!

  28. Now we know why Kennedy was put in there tonight.

  29. DodgerZona says:

    wow….Ak put out…hmmmmm….at least it’s a run…need more

  30. crash24now says:

    Beggars can’t be choosers! I asked for Hanley or ‘Dre, but AK is OK!

    • nedisajerk says:

      I ever ask for Kemp to get rest and Rivera to play LF with his success vs Timmy I guess I can’t get that. I had a feeling Kennedy was going to start over Cruz and his career.444 batting average .

  31. crash24now says:

    Dammit, another run we’re gonna have to get back.

  32. DodgerZona says:

    Dammit

  33. trublu4ever says:

    This is why Adam should not play!

  34. koufax1963 says:

    kennedy giveth, and now he taketh, wow cant we keep a lead

  35. vl4eccjr says:

    PFFFFFFFTT!!!
    Well that was a very short lived lead. . . . .

  36. crash24now says:

    Why was Shane bunting with two strikes?

  37. DodgerZona says:

    please Matt come on

  38. crash24now says:

    ….here comes Kemp with RISP…

  39. koufax1963 says:

    Observations at pitcher change
    what if riveria was playing first, hitting 3rd, with his 444 BA vs lincecum
    2. dogers are missing some hanging stuff, sad hitting
    3. victorino couldnt move the runners up, eck
    good stuff ellis and vistorino getting on
    kenedy HR
    beckett great

  40. DodgerZona says:

    Casilla…This guy is hard to hit

  41. DodgerZona says:

    Have to agree koufax….Beckett had a good game

  42. DodgerZona says:

    Damn

  43. I can’t help but wonder if there’s a problem with Matt’s vision. He’s been hitting “bupkus” since he crashed into the fence.

  44. DodgerZona says:

    Come on Hanley

  45. vl4eccjr says:

    Shane’s just a rental with less than a month remaining. He won’t be around next season.

  46. DodgerZona says:

    Hold them….BP time or is Beckett staying in

  47. DodgerZona says:

    crap…ugh

  48. DodgerZona says:

    Hold these gnats

  49. vl4eccjr says:

    POOF!!!

  50. trublu4ever says:

    Thar she blows!

  51. Brewers just tied the Cards in St. Lou.

  52. DodgerZona says:

    Crap

  53. DodgerZona says:

    Wow what a season

  54. crash24now says:

    Still alive….don’t roll over and die.

  55. Brewers 4 Cards 2 in the top of 8th.

  56. DodgerZona says:

    don’t roll over and die…i’m dead lol

  57. DodgerZona says:

    they got to take these next 2 games enough said

  58. It will take quite a haul now to catch the Giants.

  59. koufax1963 says:

    good night, this was pathetic – kemp, A-gon, Hanram, dre all failed.
    kennedy our big power guy. donnie was genius for that move.

  60. nellyjune says:

    I know I say this everytime the Dodgers/Giants series comes around, but it sucks to not only lose to them but to lose listening to their announcers. Crap!!!

  61. Ryan Braun has just put the Brewews ahead of the Cardinals 5-4, with an HR in 13th inning.

  62. 32and53fan says:

    This just tops my day. First I drive 60 miles round trip to fix a leaky tub valve. Naturally the parts are corroded and extremely difficult to remove. Then the parts the plumbing store thought would work, didn’t. To cut to the chase, I could not get the valve seat removed and I failed to fix the problem.
    Once I got home, wiith the greatest of hopes, I started to watch the game that was recorded on my DVR. It is 2-2 in the bottom of the 7th inning. I read your comments and clicked on some of the news links so I know the Dodgers lost once again. Every game left must be played like a post-season game. I was depressed after the plumbing fiasco and now watching another pathetic loss, I am doubly depressed.

  63. The Cards lose and the Dodgers, along with the Pirates, are still only 1 1/2 games back.

  64. kahliforni says:

    If this team was the Atlanta Braves or Chicago White Sox or any other franchise not named the Dodgers, what would anyone on this board say about the job being done by the manager?

  65. messagebear says:

    That he’s a gutsy players’ type manager who SUCKS.

  66. grizzy says:

    This is becoming all to familiar. Has the Big Dodger in the Sky forsaken us?

    • 32and53fan says:

      Probably. A lot of winning comes down to luck. Early in the season, I noticed that many plays just worked out for the Dodgers, not for the opposition. Lately, the other teams are doing well, with lots of bloopers that just find their way just beyond the reach of our fielders. You can’t blame swinging strikeouts on bad luck however. Or a manager that is afraid to ask his middle of the order guys to shorten their swing and play small ball sometimes. I wish Scioscia would consider a return to the Dodgers.

    • messagebear says:

      Just the other way around. When you can overbid for the franchise to the extent of $2 billion plus, you consider yourself “too big to fail”, so why would you look to the Big Dodger in the Sky for help or for old traditions. Money will buy everything – does the name Guggenheim mean anything to you?

  67. trublu4ever says:

    Guess what? No Matty today! Fine, just fine!

  68. This is the right thing to do, taking Kemp out of the lineup. Like most teams would do with any player who’s in a slump like he is, for whatever reason.
    Kemp probably didn’t want to give in and then finally did.
    Needless to say, we need to win, if just to keep up with the wild card hunt.
    You might think getting in via the wild card is nothing to brag about but Who knows? the team may be hitting by that time.

  69. koufax1963 says:

    Riveria should have been in last night for more than just one AB, which he did get a hit, and that wan’t even off lincecum. That game was frustrating, with lincecums 6 walks?, and infielding gaffs by scutaro and sandoval, the dodgers could have broken the game open with hits by our 3,4,5,6 hitters.

  70. Hi Folks
    Well it’s audio only for me today.
    GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. Unbeliable, here they go again.

  72. trublu4ever says:

    Easy come, easy go!

  73. I wonder if we’ll ever get that run back.

  74. Rivera just did something . . . .

  75. trublu4ever says:

    Whew! Now, let’s get some runs!

  76. We’re still alive…….

  77. trublu4ever says:

    YO, ADRIAN!

  78. Every time they try to be agressive it backfires.

  79. trublu4ever says:

    Come on League…finish this, please!

  80. trublu4ever says:

    Thank-you, Lord!

  81. grizzy says:

    OK. We have some life and Kershaw tomorrow.

  82. We’re just a game behind the Cards.

  83. nellyjune says:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you Dodgers!! At least we can’t get swept this time!!

  84. DodgerZona says:

    Such language from u Tru…Pussy? lol

  85. nedisajerk says:

    PCL Playoffs: Isotopes pull off stunning comeback to even series

    Minor League Baseball
    September 8, 2012
    By: Christopher Jackson

    Elian Herrera smoked two triples in the seventh inning as the Isotopes staged a stunning rally to defeat the Storm Chasers.

    The Albuquerque Isotopes were dead and buried, their season over.

    They trailed 10-3 after Jason Bourgeois cranked out a leadoff home run in the seventh inning.

    Then, like they have so many times before — but in perhaps even more spectacular fashion — the Isotopes roared to life and left the Omaha Storm Chasers obliterated in their wake Saturday night.

    Albuquerque exploded for nine runs in the seventh inning and defeated Omaha 12-10 to force a decisive Game 5.

    “I’ve been in a lot of playoff games and this comeback here is the greatest comeback I’ve been a part of,” manager Lorenzo Bundy said. “Especially in an elimination game.”

    The Isotopes and Storm Chasers will battle one last time Sunday at 1:35 p.m. to decide the American Conference title and who will advance to the Pacific Coast League championship series.

    “We definitely didn’t do it the easy way,” Bundy said, shaking his head. “Oh my goodness, the Topes live to fight another day.”

    Elian Herrera ignited Albuquerque in the seventh with a leadoff triple. After Dee Gordon reached on an error by third baseman Anthony Seratelli, Josh Fields singled to left field to score Herrera.

    Jerry Sands followed with a two-run double into the left field corner. Scott Van Slyke then smashed a double off the left field wall to score Sands and suddenly it was 10-7.

    Omaha brought in Brandon Sisk to relieve starter Doug Davis. Trent Oeltjen greeted him with a looping single to left to put runners at the corners.

    Matt Angle lined out to right, but catcher Adam Moore misplayed the throw home and Van Slyke was able to score.

    Josh Bard singled and Tony Gwynn Jr., who went homerless with the Dodgers earlier this season, picked the perfect time to crank out his first of the year, a three-run shot to right-center to make it 11-10 Albuquerque.

    “It’s one of the better innings I’ve been a part of,” Gwynn said. “I was just glad I was able to get up there and get a pitch to hit. I didn’t want to get beat. I didn’t care if I hit the ball off the end of the bat at that point. I just wanted to make sure I got the head out.

    “I put a good swing and I didn’t think it was going to get out, I thought I hit it too much on the line. I guess that’s the ‘Querque for you right there.”

    Gwynn said it was his first home run in over a calendar year.

    “He saved it for the perfect time,” Bundy said. “He’s been scuffling a little bit here. It was good to see him pull it out.”

    Herrera would hit his second triple of the inning and score on Fields’ sacrifice fly for an insurance run.

    “Nope,” Herrera said with a smile when he was asked if he had ever hit two triples in one inning before. “It was a great moment.”

    Lorenzo Barcelo (1-0) gave up a leadoff single to Irving Falu in the eighth, but then struck out Mitch Maier and Royals top prospect Wil Myers before getting Max Ramirez to fly out to center.

    Barcelo retired the side in order in the ninth to finish it, striking out Moore to cap the Isotopes’ biggest comeback of the season.

    “He came in and we wanted to get him some work, see what we had,” Bundy said. “There was a possibility he might be (Sunday’s) starter. For a while it didn’t look there would be a tomorrow. He was fresh, he had a proper day’s rest. He came in and did a great job.”

    Will Savage, who threw two innings of relief in Game 1, will start Sunday against the Storm Chasers’ Justin Marks, whose only prior Triple-A start saw him give up nine runs in 1.2 innings against the Isotopes on Aug. 31.

  86. Hi OTD
    Rather than wait up for the results of the games I decided get some rest last night. Hoping to wake up to find that both the Cards & Bucs both lost. It was great to find out this morning that indeed they both did.
    Cards……………..74-65
    Dem Bums………74-66……1/2
    Bucs………………72-66…..1 1/2.
    Something to cling to if
    we don’t catch the Giants, which I hope we do.
    Good to have Clayton on the mound tonight.
    74-66, last year we were 68-72 after 140 games and ended up 82-79.
    GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. nedisajerk says:

    This season just can’t get any worse than it already have. Kershaw scratched Blanton starting tonight.

  88. messagebear says:

    It’s part of the Guggenheim curse!

  89. I just hope he’ll be allright on Tuesday. Blanton’s pitching pretty well lately, let’s hope he can continue it.

  90. What else is new, 0-3 with RISP already.

  91. trublu4ever says:

    Crap!

  92. Pence shows the difference between these teams.

  93. crash24now says:

    Oh well, good thing Zito’s pitching. Get those runs back.

  94. trublu4ever says:

    Finally, after about 40 pitches…3 outs!

  95. kahliforni says:

    The Phils’ GM is one smart cookie…Victorino and Blanton…blah. And these guys have rings? Age is a bitch.

  96. And the (RISP) beat goes on.

  97. The hill is getting steeper.

  98. trublu4ever says:

    I’m so glad we called up Abreu!

  99. Musta slipped out of Jamey’s hand.or he just wanted to excite the crowd.

  100. I can’t believe they sent in a specialist to face Ethier while they are leading 4-0 in the 9th.

  101. kahliforni says:

    I spent about 2 1/2 weeks on my honeymoon. Donnie’s is approaching two years. I’m jealous.

  102. vl4eccjr says:

    It wasn’t Rocket Science. I knew we were in trouble when Kersh’s start got pushed, and they started Blanton instead in his place.
    This team is in deep kimchee right now, and in a total state of disarray.

  103. I could say that it was just another bad night, but I feel we were beaten by a very good team.
    And I hate them so.

  104. DodgerZona says:

    Nice job Blanton….Thanks Ned

  105. koufax1963 says:

    The kershaw scratch will cause more clubhouse friction, lets be real this 3rd game is/was a 2 game differnce in the team standings. 3.5 vs 5.5, bleh. riveria game 1, kershaw game 3. cappy did great!

  106. grizzy says:

    Pretty disappointing. In the end it doesn’t matter if Kershaw pitched or not. It’s pretty unlikely the pitching staff with Kershaw could have shut out the Giants indefinitely. Teams get suddenly get hot and that’s what I’m hoping for, but to tell the truth, I’ve been thinking about next year, spring training, who is going to be in left, what the pitching staff will look like. Give the owners credit, they pulled the trigger but so far it has not worked.

    • I know it’s rather tongue-in-cheek of me to say so, but the reality is the owners pulled the trigger and the gun is shooting blanks.

      • crash24now says:

        We still have a chance to get the second wild card spot. But then what? Lose the one game playoff to the Braves?

        Even if we beat the Braves, the way this team is playing, we wouldn’t likely go far in the playoffs. So is it time to say “wait til next year”? Well, no, not quite, but it is tempting to go there.

        • I’m hoping if we can possiblly get to that Wild Card game it will be because our offense suddenly did get hot and not because the Cards hit a slump. If fact I don’t think we’ll make it at the rate we’re going. I feel if by some twist of fate, the team, finally, just starts hitting (at the right time) and with some good pitching we start winning.
          A pipe dream, I know, but I’m not giving up until, at least, we can’t make it through this week.

  107. messagebear says:

    Why expect different results while Ned is doing all the personnel moves? Ned’s had the ability to give out some big contracts before, only not as long as some that were recently acquired. The point is that he’s always been the patsy in any moves between GM’s, so nothing is different with the most recent ones. He got a lead-off player for us, who’s not leading off, nor providing much else while the Giants got Pence. Well, that’s only a two month rental, so no big deal. He took over a huge obligation package from the Red Sox, which just may contain a bunch of overpaid, overindulged losers that were the Red Sox’ mistakes to begin with.

    The other laughing stock will be the Guggenheimers, as they extend Ned’s contract big time. Ha Ha Ha!

  108. nedisajerk says:

    Maybe they should had made this trade back when we had that 7 games lead. I think we were still be in 1st place and could had done a better job with the Brewers instead of getting our butt kick..

  109. kahliforni says:

    When a team underperforms, isn’t the manager the first to be called to task? I can’t understand why Donnie is such a Teflon, protected entity.

    • messagebear says:

      I think the Guggenheims like most corporations make decisions through committees, not individually. Ever try to get a decision made through committee? Blow money – YES; make a tough, or even not so tough, decision – takes forever. Heads will only roll when everything’s already lost, not in time to change course for the team.

    • trublu4ever says:

      You are right, Kahli. Most managers would have been fired by now. I hope the Kasten group does the right thing at seasons end.

    • kahliforni says:

      I’m not saying Donnie should have been fired by now. Nobody is going to blow out a manager in September if the team is in contention. But every internet story I read, or every national telecast I listen to, heaps praise on Donnie…and I just don’t see why. Not one shred of criticism. They’re already rolling out the excuses…injuries, late trades with no time to gel, ownership, turmoil to begin the season, on and on, ad nauseam. And now they’re saying Donnie can exhale, with the impending extension of Ned’s contract. Whatever attributes Donnie supposedly has that makes him a highly-regarded manager, he has his team playing flat as a pancake, uninspired, lacking fundamentals, incapable of manufacturing runs, questionable in-game strategy, and all this in the heat of a very winnable pennant race. This is the Los Angeles Dodgers. I guarantee this team could do better than Donnie Baseball, Uncle Joe’s handpicked, learn-on-the-job successor. Maybe Tim Wallach would do no better, but I’ll bet he gets plenty of looks this winter by teams in need of a new manager.

      • nedisajerk says:

        Sorry I doubt Tim Wallace could had done the job with all these injuries. I still want to see this team when they are healthy and Kemp not missing over 50+ games. If they underperformance next season than you fired Donny.

  110. grizzy says:

    I agree with kahli: uninspired, lacking in fundamentals (Victorino’s failure to advance Ellis in the 1st yesterday pleased me no end), unable to manufacture runs. I also agree with nedis… I’d like to see how this unit performs when healthy.
    *
    It’s to early to send Donnie down the road. As before I’m hoping these guys get hot and take off, but I have also been wondering how they will do after going through ST together. Ownership has shown they’ll go after players, so the pitching staff will probably have a different look as well. If they still are under performing next year at the break, then adios.

    • nedisajerk says:

      I think the best hitter hit 3rd but in this case Ethier should be batting 3th Hanley 4th, A-Gon 5th and I think Kemp should be batting 2nd.

  111. nedisajerk says:

    Ellis
    Kemp (Maybe you can used Ramirez here but I’d rather keep Kemp here.)
    Ethier (Not fair he’s batting 6th 346/.404/.615/1.019 such a waste there even though he’s been on fire.)
    Ramirez
    A-Gonz
    Cruz
    Ellis
    Victorino (When Gordon bat 8th his stats lines was .308/.341/.333/.675 but maybe Victorino need to be here for the time being to take the pressure away from him.)

    It probably not be a bad idea.

    • kahliforni says:

      I have no problem with that line-up.

      • lbirken says:

        Do you folks really want Victorino back? To me, he is the biggest disappointment of all the moves.

        • nedisajerk says:

          I rather give him a chance next season but he need to bat 8th better pray that Crawford is healthy. I’m not the kind of person that gave up a guy that quick after a midseason trade and surely not for Martin/Lindblom. I’d rather wait until July 31, 2013. Is not like our offense has been clicking in the 2nd half and this seem to be a curse season for us with the injuries and hitting with risp and I think if everyone stay healthy which is impossible and click than everyone would be clicking. I would still take Victorino over Rivera/Gwynn and any other LF’s we had to toot out there.

  112. lbirken says:

    Kahli, if you think about it, Dodger managers have always had it pretty easy with regards to the media, at least here in the L.A. area, notwithstanding T.J. Simers’ rants from time to time.

    • kahliforni says:

      It’s funny, though, lbirk, I can’t remember the media being this nice. I know you have a bit more patience than most, and I respect you for that. But injuries/trades/excuses notwithstanding, what is your assessment of Donnie Baseball as manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers?

  113. lbirken says:

    Kahli, I do have a bit more patience with regard to heaping criticism on players and managers, etc. mostly because as much as I think I know about things, I really do not have enough information. I have never done what these guys do but I have dealt with people and personalities and it is not easy. And much of the criticism, not so much from you but in general seems to me like hindsight. It is easy to be critical when you already know the outcome.

    However, you ask a fair question. I can’t tell you how often I ask myself, especially when things are not going well, is what would Lasorda do? We all know he used to do anything to shake up the team when things were not going well and every player I have ever heard who played for him talks about they way Tommy tried to get the best he could from that player. There is no doubt in my mind most of the things Tommy told players was stuff he made up and there was no reason to think anyone would listen to him. But they did. I don’t remember Tommy changing lineups the way currrent managers do but then again the best teams Tommy managed had the same infield batting in the same order day in and day out. Those guys never took a day off. But times have changed and there may never be another manager like Tommy.

    So do I think Donnie has done a good job? I think the same as most of you: he did not have enough experience and he was at Torre’s side too much. But then again many people felt Kirk Gibson would be a great manager and while he had a little more experience as a coach, I don’t think he ever managed anywhere prior to being named D’backs manager. Is he doing a good job? Why does anyone think Wallach or Orel would be better at managing or coaching than the current coaches or managers? It is because the results are not there. If that is the criteria, then I agree Donnie can be rightfully criticized. Do the players respond and respect Donnie as a manager? it would seem so but we really don’t know. Does Donnie make good decisions? His lineups seem odd at times but more often than not the results seem to go his way more often than not. Does he leave pitchers in too long? Hindsight says yes but then again if he took pitchers out too early he would get criticized for that as well when the move did not get the desired result.

    Here is what he has not been able to do yet, and he has probably not been on the job long enough: win something. He was riding high when the season started and not so much now when things are just crappy. I am sure he believes every move he makes will work and is the right move at the time. Sometimes moves don’t work. Can he find a way to get this group of players to perform at what we think is a much higher level? Can players be motivated to play better, get clutch hits, make the right pitches and perhaps even play above their capabilities? I have no idea. I hope this is not a cop out answer to your question, but at this point in time I have to say Donnie still has an incomplete in my book.

    • kahliforni says:

      Thanks, lbirk. I agree with pretty much everything you say. Managing is an imperfect science. But I just don’t like the attitude of this team right now, and for me, the buck stops in the manager’s office. We certainly don’t know what’s going on in the clubhouse, but I have a hard time believing this team is 100% committed to the manager and willing to run through brick walls for him…whatever that means…

      • trublu4ever says:

        I’ve been reading what you guys are saying and it’s very thought provoking. I believe that even though Matt and Andre are the anchors (the face our team), they are too soft spoken to be the team leaders. Maybe I’m wrong but, that is my impression. And, so is Mattingly. So, you need a Tommy type manager. Perhaps next season, Matt, Dre or Agon will take charge and lead this team. I do believe, we will be great next season with the new additions….and, of course, a few subtractions. New management will get us much needed pitching and I can’t wait to see what develops.

  114. crash24now says:

    Giants and Cards lose! Dodgers win by not playing!

  115. nellyjune says:

    Fabulous reading by all who contributed today/tonight. Well worth the two cents! I honestly don’t know what the answer is. I am looking more forward to the off-season to see how our new ownership deals with pitching in particular. As for Victorino, I am having a hard time getting over him as a Phillie. It’s kind of like having an ex-gnat on the team. He is the new JP for me…..just nothing to say “yeah” about.

  116. Understanding that we don’t know the dynamics of what goes on in the clubhouse, nor are we privy to the injury reports, one still can look at Donnie’s body of work and conclude he is one piss poor manager. Inane line-ups, puzzling in game decisions, questionable handling of a pitching staff, not utilizing the running game, not managing to a player’s strengths, setting up situations where players are more apt to fail than succeed… perhaps if he’d honed his skills in the minors he’d have a better grasp. He’s Joe Jr to a tee, but without the incredible luck Joe had with his inane line-ups. Now he’s handed the keys to a Porche and he drives it like a Yugo. Manager’s are supposed to get more out of their teams than the sum of their parts. Bochy does. Donnie gets less and always will. Its the same as when Joe managed – these guys win in spite of Donnie, not because of him.

    As for Victorino, I didn’t want him in the first place, though he’s far exceeded my expectations of futility. With Crawford in the wings for May/June next year, why would you sign Shane to too many years and too many dollars? You either come up with a short term in-house solution, or you sign some journeyman OFer not named Rivera or Abreu to hold Crawford’s spot. Getting a “name” shouldn’t be necessary when you’ve got a line-up that features Kemp, Adrian, Dre and Hanley.

  117. kahliforni says:

    I guess I’ll leave it at this: the Dodgers have 21 games left and are one game out of the Wild Card. If Donnie can’t close the deal, I do not want to hear any excuses from anyone.

  118. messagebear says:

    Sounds fair. I would only escalate that to “Fire Kasten” too, because obviously he will have thrown millions upon millions at the wrong target(s).

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