We need heavenly intervention to make the playoffs…I feel we will get it done!


126 Responses to BLUE HEAVEN

  1. trublu4ever says:

    Our bats will finally come alive and the pitching will be good enough to get, and hold, a lead. I know, you all think I’m crazy but, Matty has to come alive any day now and, the rest of the team will contribute….so, I will never give up…..GO DODGERS!

  2. Hi Folks,
    I agree Matt has to start hitting but we can also get help from a Giant collapes or a Cardinal slump.

  3. grizzy says:

    Good job, tru. Nothing to do but hold tight and wait for the hits to fall.

  4. kahliforni says:

    Sorry, I’m as big a Dodger nut as anyone….but the pitching will be the downfall. The big boys upstairs have begun the task of re-making the team, starting with offense…but the winter must see some badly-needed arms. The Wild Card is in reach but it will be tough to catch the Gnats. Really, how far can the team go with their pitching right now? They can’t even win when their ace pitches. Bullpen worn to the fray. The starters are averaging 5+ to 6+ innings per start. Come September, that means your bullpen is shot. And we all know it. Maybe Donnie’s hook has been a bit quick all year. And now the bill has come due.

  5. crash24now says:

    Old rules of thumb never die. When the going gets tough, good pitching always beats good hitting. We just don’t have the starting pitching that we need. Losing Billz was especially tough.

    • trublu4ever says:

      Honestly, though, doesn’t it seem like every team’s pitching is sub-par this year? The Gnats took 11 pitchers to lose last night….imagine that ELEVEN!!!!!!!!!!!

      • crash24now says:

        Bochy took a page out of Joe’s book last night.

        But when it comes to starting pitching, the Gnats have four very good ones, plus Zito. We’ve got one – Kershaw – who matches up well with Cain. After that, Capuano, Beckett, Harang, and Blanton, do not hold up well against Lincecum, Vogelsong, Bumgarner and Zito. IMO.

        • trublu4ever says:

          But, they are not as good right now. Giving up runs…they are lucky that their team has bailed them out. On the other hand, our team hasn’t……until tonight!

  6. lbirken says:

    I am more frustrated at the hitting woes than I am about pitching problems. Losing Bills at a time he was finally pitching the way we all thought he could and then losing Kenly at about the same time would challenge any manager. However, with the lineup the Dodgers are putting on the field lately, it would be reasonable to believe the improved hitting should overcome the pitching problems. That has not happened so it makes the pitching even more of an issue. A key hit here and there any maybe Donnie does not have to burn another arm that night.

    • trublu4ever says:

      I’m with you, lbirken.

    • kahliforni says:

      I’m not so much blaming Donnie for the pitching (I’ll blame him for other things!) but look at the starters. Other than Kershaw, they’ve been running up pitch counts all season…leave early…and tax the bullpen. Why? Because they can’t/won’t throw the ball over the plate. Ned’s beloved staff seems to lack the necessary “confidence” to trust their stuff. Can’t say as I blame them. Harang, Capuano, Lilly, even Billingsley, nibble, nibble, nibble, scared to death that a big league ball player might actually square up a pitch. That’s why I love Beckett. He isn’t afraid to be on the mound. Fear kills an athlete.

  7. messagebear says:

    Never fear about pitching. Another $100 million in future payroll obligations ought to fix that dilemma. Just leave it to Guggenheim, and they’ll get those arms for next year with no sweat – all with Ned’s help, of course.

  8. trublu4ever says:

    Billz done for the season. Lefty Steven Rodriquez called up….anybody hear anything about him. I’m too lazy to go check him out 😉

  9. trublu4ever says:

    For once, I have to give Donnie a thumbs up….win or lose, he is sticking with the same lineup.

  10. Maybe we can start filling in the lineup every morning, since we know it by heart (LOL) Or for a couple of games for that mather.

  11. trublu4ever says:

    Come on Harang….just for once, get through an inning without giving up runs!

  12. Well….another bad start.

  13. trublu4ever says:

    Finally, after about 35 pitches and 3 runs, we are up!

  14. grizzy says:

    Somehow I’m getting an uneasy feeling about all this.

  15. I have to agree with Kahli. This is why this team has no chance of making the playoffs – no pitching. Haven’t ever had but one or two decent starters each year the entire time Ned’s been here, which in a nutshell is why they couldn’t go any further in ’08 and ’09.

    I have to give props to Mattingley though. We all thought Joe was a magician, but Donnie’s the one that’s been able to take a sportscar line-up and turn it into a Yugo.

  16. vl4eccjr says:

    If they could only clone Cruz, they would have a better chance of making the playoffs. . .

  17. trublu4ever says:

    You blew it with the bat too, Aaron!

  18. vl4eccjr says:


  19. There’s nothing that this team does well except leave runners on base.

  20. trublu4ever says:

    YO, Adrian….rbi for you!

  21. trublu4ever says:

    Shoot! At least we are closer!

  22. vl4eccjr says:

    More wasted opportunities, and too many RISP LOB. . .
    Deja vu!

  23. trublu4ever says:

    Vinny says the Gnats have 17 pitchers on their roster. I guess Bochy needs his exercise walking back and forth to he mound.

  24. trublu4ever says:

    Wow…Shane just saved Harang from giving up a few more runs!

  25. trublu4ever says:

    I SEE YOU!

  26. trublu4ever says:

    Dbags 4 – 0 over Gnats in 7th

  27. koufax1963 says:

    Tru Love the blue heart picture! ……After last night, then seeing 3-0 in the first, ugh, but, hope springs eternal, I agree with the above , we need piching, front line starters, $$$, GO Dodgers!

  28. 6-2 Dbacks – 7th inning, Giants still hitting . . . .

  29. koufax1963 says:

    Toleson needs some schooling.

  30. nellyjune says:

    Pitching, pitching, pitching. Yea, the Dodgers sure have had their issues with hitting. No doubt about that, but if you don’t have the pitching, all the offense in the league can’t stop the other team from getting in their batting practice on a pitcher that doesn’t have his stuff (or in some cases never did).

  31. Shane–Adgon– & Kemp.

  32. koufax1963 says:

    If the dodgers can come back from 3-0, they can come 4-3. Go dodgers and Matty better get it together very soon!

  33. Maybin should be arrested for stealing Matty’s home run from him!!

  34. vl4eccjr says:

    Hand Grenades & Horse Shoes!

  35. trublu4ever says:

    Donnie’s double switch earlier cost us our hottest hitter….damn shame Cruuuzzzz is out of the lineup……Tru is miffed!

  36. 32and53fan says:

    It looks like we’re going to need another 9th inning miracle. It is starting to feel like “Groundhog Day” again.

  37. trublu4ever says:

    Come on guys….walk off time…..Gnats lost!!!!!

  38. koufax1963 says:

    Um, get rid of harang’s first inning and 3.5, ely last night, tolleson tonight, our BP is awful, and troncoso is where? the gnats blinked, but the dodgers just got out bullied, so on to the phone booth after dead thursday. GO Dodgers!

  39. vl4eccjr says:

    They better get their behinds in gear in the gay bay this weekend, or they’re playoff hopes are doomed.

  40. grizzy says:

    Same quotes,same results. Guess I’m done being PO’d, I’m just plain disgusted now. It’s already been pointed out that you can’t win if you do not score and you’ll only go as far as your pitching can carry you. If you can’t beat the Padres with Kershaw you’re pretty well screwed. I hate to say it, but this is not a playoff team.

    • JhallWally says:

      Disgusted and disillusioned!!! Our bullpen sucks. Guerrear sucks… Another one of Nedcompoops blunders…. Good Grief, we got to this point without him, why rely on him now. He sucked before. There is no reason to believe he will not suck now….

      And, if the Reds are relying on Brox, they will get hosed……..

  41. JhallWally says:

    Hi’Ya Tru!!!! I’m close to getting back. I’m still not down with the Dodgers as long as Nedcompoop is on board.

    • trublu4ever says:

      I’m glad you are coming back. I feel your pain as far as Neddie goes….don’t know whether they will keep him or not….however, if they do, I hope ownership has the say on who gets on the team. They are bringing back the announcing crew. My guess, they don’t have to listen to them (except Vinny of course). I think the first to go should be Bunnynutts and then Donnie. Mattingly dosn’t fit with the Dodger way.

  42. crash24now says:

    Every night the Dodgers find a new way to lose. When you’re doing that during a pennant race, that’s a sure sign that you need a new manager. Donnie needs to go at the end of the year.

  43. This is going to be some weekend, If the Dodgers lose I hope the Cards do too, so we can at least keep pace with them.

  44. messagebear says:

    Donnie really needs to go the day that the Dodgers are eliminated from playoffs – right along with his coaching staff, minus Lopes. That would be for dramatic effect for sheer incompetency. We have Wallach to manage the last couple of games and to be considered for the future, same as he should have been considered at the time that Donnie was annointed through Torre.

    Of course, NED NEEDS TO GO TOO. Personally I’d hang him up by his balls… in public… before I cut them off.

    Yes, I am getting pissed off – no more Mr. Nice Guy.

  45. kahliforni says:

    The natives are, indeed, restless. As the cliché goes, because you can’t fire the team, usually the manager goes. For whatever reason, this team is NOT playing well, certainly not well enough to be considered a legitimate threat. His message is falling on deaf ears. Time for a change. Sorry, Donnie, nothing personal.

  46. Still a mystery to me how you can have the best coach of the running game in all of baseball, yet your team doesn’t hit and run, steal bases when called for, run and hit with certain combinations, bunt – Donnie does nothing to manufacture runs and play an NL style game ala Scioscia. If he did, they might score more than 2-3 runs a game and put pressure on the other team.

    Donnie is a loser and should be thrown out on his ass.

    And that IS personal.

  47. koufax1963 says:

    SI’s Ben reiter , wrote quite the article on Colletti today, do check it out. Apparently he well respected by players such as koufax and mays and kemp. and they did bring out his bad moves, uribe, A. jones as well as his current strategy with $$$ to spend now. I wondered what he would with $$, before I thought he was a dufus, bringing schmidt, jones and a big contract to Manny, but now he wants to build a team of character. I am not in favor of him, but I can see how his most recent trades have played in to a performance enhancing mix of the current dodgers. I do agree with him, that these players must execute on the playing field, so donnie has been given the talent (except for pitching) and donnie needs to make the right decisions. Not using tolleson this weekend might be suggested. Also if you play the stat game, Juan rivera (444avg)start at 1st vs lincecum rather than adrian, and yes adam kennedy would be a good PH vs lincecum, just stuff a mgr might consider to put his team in a good place. I know my fellow OTD dodgers buddies are in possible disgust at these thoughts, but the dodgers have to do something to sweep this series, yes sweep, a one game difference does not bode well. The good news the gnats will face the relaxed and agressive padres soon.

  48. messagebear says:

    All of these recent additions, along with our own Matt, Andre, and Kersch, are noted for having at one time fought hard to get the distinction and earn the huge dollar contracts that they all now have. You have to wonder if such a thing as the “Fat Cat” syndrome sets in, where you’ve finally got it all, but the fire in the belly begins to dissipate. Do we have too many Fat Cats on the team?

    • koufax1963 says:

      Bear-its quite possible, and Kershaw is probably next on the list for fat pay day, and lets see what that does to him. Right now, the guy I would want up to bat with men in scoring position is Cruz, and how much do we pay him. You could look at the Yankees, and their paydrool and their 1st place position, so $$$ isn’t always a negative.

      • trublu4ever says:

        Cruz is my guy also right now. So, why the hell does Donnie always remove him on a double switch?! I’d rather he remove Mark….then, again, Mattingly just doesn’t get it!

  49. Any of you see Donnie’s interview on the homepage? What the hell is he doing with his hand? Reminds me of Captain Qweeg with his ballbearings when he’s being cross-examined. Notice too he keeps pulling his hat down as if trying to hide. A psychologist could have a field day watching it. I didn’t even turn on the sound or I probably would’ve heard nothing but excuses and cliches. Donnie needs to go now, he’s no manager.

  50. lbirken says:

    When you look at the typical lineup the Dodgers put on the field the past few weeks, it would seem that there is not an easy out and that pitchers should be worried. So where is the fear? Where is the “protection” for the power guys? What happened to the power guys? Are they run down, worn down, slowed by injury or fatigue? So many deep fly balls end up caught on the warning track. What happened to “beastmode”? No way he is 100%. The Dodgers had problems scoring runs when Kemp was hitting so it should come as no surprise this team can’t win when he doesn’t. Even with Hanley and Agon, Kemp and Ethier are still the heart of this team and when they are not producing, the Dodgers offense suffers. Yes, the pitching is a big issue as well but the hitters have certainly not helped. Victorino has been a bust as far as I am concerned as well. Wasn’t he supposed to be the answer to the lead off issues? Now he is batting second, mostly because he wasn’t getting on base enough. Ramirez has been o.k. and Agon has had his moments but this is certainly not what anyone expected when all these moves were made.

  51. trublu4ever says:

    Damn…hearing management is talking with Colletti about contract extension….hopefully, Neddie will turn them down…sure, he will…ugh!

  52. grizzy says:

    I don’t see Victorino coming back.

    • nedisajerk says:

      That might be the reason why we got Crawford but I read last month that Victorino would love to stay here but would he take a paycut? I think Victorino could signed a 2 years deal and with Ned anything is possible until Puig is ready but with Crawford in the mix I don’t know. How long does TJS last for a position player since it not the same with a pitcher waiting for a whole year?

      • Victorino will want too many years for us to re-sign him anyway. With Crawford maybe being ready to play May-June, I’m seeing them either signing another reject like Rivera so that they can play until Crawford’s ready, then become the 4th OFer, or giving someone like Castellanos a shot for a couple months, though that’s not Ned’s usual MO. Fill-in OFers though are a dime a dozen so I’m sure it’ll end up being someone cheap. Personally, I’d try and obtain a real 3B and see if Cruz can play left for awhile.

  53. kahliforni says:

    I believe the days of dumpster diving are over. No more PVLs. Young talent will win out. Victorino has done nothing to even merit the conversation of a new Dodger contract. I also agree Kasten is uninterested in the mundane day-to-day tasks of a GM. But he wants control. So Ned is perfect. As enchanted so enchantingly put it: “Hi, this is Ned Colletti general manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers calling. Please hold for Stan Kasten.” And Ned only makes that call at Stan’s command.

    Now if I hear Donnie is offered an extension, that’s when I’ll get good and pissed off.

  54. lbirken says:

    I agree Victorino will want some sort of multi year deal and so far he has done nothing to deserve a big time deal, at least with the Dodgers. Maybe he will have a strong finish. I am sure he did not expect the Dodgers to add another outfielder when they got Crawford in the trade but even that is a crap shoot. I had big hopes for Victorino as he solved two problems for the Dodgers, left field and lead off. I have no idea if Crawford will fill the same need.

  55. grizzy says:

    enchanted’s idea for Cruz could work.

  56. The outcast in all of these recent acquisitions is Dee Gordon. To keep Hanley happy, they’re going to have to let him play short, and Dee doesn’t have the bat to play 2B (which is saying a lot considering we only have MEllis at second), nor can he play 3B. Somewhere someone needs a shortstop and can give us a 3B in return. I’d like to see them work something with SD to get Headley, but there are others out there we could obtain I’m sure. Now that the team has more money than brains though it wouldn’t surprise me they end up with Wright.

    • crash24now says:

      The Dodgers could do a lot worse than picking up Wright.

      However, the more pressing need this off-season is to pick up some quality starting pitchers. Even more so if Billz has TJ surgery.

    • kahliforni says:

      Personally, if I’m manager–and I want the best team on the field–Hanley plays third base. He is a bit “rough” at short. I know Dodger brass figures with Hanley at short they can get another big stick at third. Nice idea, but I thought the Dodger way was pitching and defense. Not that Dee is lights-out with the glove. And Mark Ellis is 35-years-old…short term, to say the least. Not sure if Cruz is the real deal or not, Gordon, either, for that matter. But whoever plays short and second, I’d like to see glove first, stick second. Same for catcher…and although AJ has been a surprise with his bat, his defense leaves a lot to be desired, whether blocking the plate (almost non existent), passed balls, or throwing out base stealers. Still lots of holes, Ned. Pitching? I’m getting a headache.

  57. I know of many of you who would disagree with me but I personally feel that a lot of Ned’s trouble was caused by McCourt. I don’t know what the future has in store for this team but I’m looking forward to seeing how he does under new ownership.

  58. grizzy says:

    I’ve never been as down on Ned as the majority on here either. Anyway, looks like we’ll have him for a bit longer.
    So, boys and girls, it’s crunch time. It’s put up or shut up. I’m tired of the same old quotes. Let’s see some results. Win this series.

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