Giants are in town

The Dodgers, who have several players with nagging injuries, have limped back to LA after a losing road trip against two teams near the bottom of their division.

Ted Lilly hopes to get the team back on the winning track tonight.

Former Dodger pitcher Bobby Castillo suffered a stroke according to the blog Vin Scully is my Home Boy.

Our new owners have flat out lied to us about Frank McCourt getting revenue from current operations.  Frank has to be sitting at home giddily laughing his ass off thinking about how he was able to buy the Dodgers using none of his own money, rip the organization into several different legal entities, avoid losing the team to the MLB by using bankruptcy laws, and sell the team with about a billion dollars going into his pocket, and still be getting 7 million dollars a year income from leasing the land.  I’d like to see what would happen if any of us tried to sell our houses, but keep the land and charge the new buyers rent for the privilege of letting the building rest on our property.


180 Responses to Giants are in town

  1. lbirken says:

    Wow, what a surprise: new ownership lied to the fans. There is so much more to be gained by just telling the truth but that never seems to happen. Clearly the only way Guggenheim or any other group could “win” the bidding proces was by getting into bed with McCourt, even if it is a small bed. Joe Torre’s group and perhaps others were not willing to do so. And I suppose it is true that McCourt is not getting parking revenue directly but he is getting his share no matter how many or how few cars park on the stadium lots. The sad thing is we still care about this deal. Shame on Guggenheim for not facing this issue square up with the fans.

    • 32and53fan says:

      It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth to watch those guys avoid telling the whole truth about the sale agreement. I would have liked it better if they said that McCourt was a smart businessman to tear the Dodgers into many pieces and he was adamant to keep some ownership of the land for the sale of the team to go forward. It would have been nice if they also admitted that they really did not mind that McCourt continues to own 50% of the land since that avoided the property being reassessed and thus they avoid having to pay millions of dollars in property taxes each year.

  2. crash24now says:

    Lineup time

    Gordon ss
    Ellis 2b
    Kemp cf
    Ethier rf
    Rivera 1b
    Abreu lf
    Uribe 3b
    Ellis c
    Lilly p

  3. crash24now says:

    Jansen has replaced Guerra as the closer.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      ”The Giants are disappointed to learn of Guillermo Mota’s suspension,” the team said in a statement. “We really wished he’d have talked to Barry first so he’d have learned how to avoid detection.” “This has also prompted us to now step up our efforts with MLB to legalize drugs just in the offhand event that Timmy isn’t tipped off before a new round of testing.”

  4. messagebear says:

    F to Guggenheim and all their spokesmen, and I was the first to say that! Being lied to will prove to be one of the lesser evils as time goes on with this group. Don’t even think that too much is going to change, as evidenced by Ned still hanging on. If you think that Frank got away with a bunch of millions out of the team coffers, just wait until the cable rights are sold and see how much disappears to all the Guggenheimers.

  5. enchantedbeaver says:

    Nice veteran play by Uribe popping up rather than getting his man over to third.

  6. enchantedbeaver says:

    Do our pitchers even take batting practice? I know a lot of them throw it during a game, but do they actually take it?

    • trublu4ever says:

      I think Kersh does…he is a very good bunter…..Uribe says he has never had to lay down a bunt….what a piece of work!!

  7. enchantedbeaver says:

    A man was sitting on a blanket at the beach.

    He had no arms and no legs.

    Three women (from England, Wales , and Ireland ) were walking past and felt sorry for the poor man.

    The English woman said, ‘Have you ever had a hug?’ The man said, ‘No,’ so she gave him a hug and walked on.

    The Welsh woman said, ‘Have you ever had a kiss?’ The man said, ‘No,’ so she gave him a kiss and walked on.

    The Irish woman came to him and said,’ave ya ever been fooked, Laddie?’ The man broke into a big smile and said,`no´.

    She said, ‘Aye – You will be when the tide comes.
    Here’s hoping the tide comes in on Ned soon.

  8. trublu4ever says:

    Good eye Dre! Nice!!

  9. nellyjune says:

    Way to go Dre!!! Nice at bat! Way to get the run in Juan!!

  10. vl4eccjr says:

    Oh well. One run beats none.

  11. enchantedbeaver says:

    I’m finding this years team every bit as entertaining as last years…

  12. vl4eccjr says:

    Dee DOH!!!

  13. trublu4ever says:

    Damn, Dee…tighten up your defense! Unacceptable!!!!! Justin would have made that play!

  14. trublu4ever says:

    Whew…we escaped!

  15. enchantedbeaver says:

    Gordon. 40 errors – over or under? I say over.

  16. nedisajerk says:

    Damn Gordon we was tied #1 in fpct in the NL now we’re probably dropped to 4th and were tied for 3rd in errors 17. The Giants are still dead last so it’s time for them to make some errors.

  17. vl4eccjr says:


  18. enchantedbeaver says:

    Don’t know who those guys were that started the season, but we’re seeing the real team Ned put together now.

  19. nedisajerk says:

    Vl4 did you see the Caps/Rangers games or maybe you don’t care about it but looking at the boxscore the Rangers scored with 7 sec left and they won in OT.

  20. vl4eccjr says:

    Congrats to the Spurs on sweeping the Jazz!

  21. nellyjune says:

    Alright AJ!!!!!!

  22. trublu4ever says:

    A.J. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. nellyjune says:

    Keep Lilly in!!! Uggghhh!!!!

    • vl4eccjr says:

      He could have gone another inning easily. Lilly is a good bunter. Maybe he could have made the squeeze work too.

  24. vl4eccjr says:

    Wow! A tight squeeeeeze indeed!

  25. vl4eccjr says:

    At least Lilly’s off the hook.

  26. nellyjune says:

    Glad we got the run, but with our bullpen, taking Lilly out was a mistake IMO.

  27. nedisajerk says:

    That suck they should give Gwynn the rbi.

  28. nedisajerk says:

    Ouch that guy Schierholtz was like 2/27 and got a PH hit go figure.

  29. trublu4ever says:

    Okay, guys, about 4 more runs and I can feel a little bit comfortable.

  30. sparkleplenty1 says:

    Good job, Matty!

  31. sparkleplenty1 says:

    The Giants are giving us lots of nice gifts tonight. Glad we’re able to take advantage of them.

  32. trublu4ever says:

    Yay…somebody else is playing sloppy!

  33. vl4eccjr says:

    Wow! A gift wrapped run!

  34. vl4eccjr says:

    Matt continue to sizzle, while Uribum contines to fizzle!

  35. enchantedbeaver says:

    Tain’t purdy, but we’ll take anything we can get.

  36. vl4eccjr says:

    Coyotes advance to play the Kings in the NHL west. Should be a good series!

  37. vl4eccjr says:

    Whew! Dodged a bullet there! Nice play Loney!

  38. nellyjune says:

    That play was awesome!

  39. trublu4ever says:

    James may not hit a lick but, his glove is golden!

  40. trublu4ever says:

    Ha-Ha, Buster Pussy!

  41. trublu4ever says:


  42. enchantedbeaver says:

    Jeez, let Lindblom bat for himself.

  43. trublu4ever says:

    Oh, my….Kennedy even had a hit!

  44. vl4eccjr says:

    Wow! If Kennedy gets a PH RBI hit off you, you might as well cancel Christmas!

  45. trublu4ever says:

    🙂 Andre!

  46. nedisajerk says:

    I jinx them and said the Giants need to make some errors glad I did that.

  47. enchantedbeaver says:

    Damn, that hit will keep Kennedy on the team another month.

  48. nellyjune says:

    Bragging rights, bragging rights, bragging rights!!!
    Way to go Dre!! 30 RBIs

  49. nedisajerk says:

    Kennedy is a Angels killer 3 homerun in 1 game against them in the WS.

  50. enchantedbeaver says:

    Coffey time now in the 9th?

  51. trublu4ever says:

    Dbacks & Rockies both lost…awesome!

  52. nedisajerk says:

    Gosh I hate 2 strike hit.

  53. enchantedbeaver says:

    How’d Theriot end up on the Gnats?

  54. trublu4ever says:

    Nice win, guys! Keep it up tomorrow!

  55. vl4eccjr says:

    Woo hoo! Nice start for the series!

  56. enchantedbeaver says:

    We’ll take it.

    Nite all.

  57. nedisajerk says:

    Did they take that Kemp error away? Lilly run should’ve been unearned.

  58. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well an easy victory for a change, can always use one of them once in a while. Another fantastic start for Lilly, now 4-0. Ethier’s 30th RBI, Rivera 13 and A.J. 11

  59. nellyjune says:

    Nice win Dodgers!!! Do it again tomorrow! Can always use some more bragging rights at home and school!

  60. grizzy says:

    You know, I just don’t get it. When Martin, Loney, Ethier and Kemp came up, I figured Loney would eventually bat 3rd. He has that sweet swing and he’s shown he can hit, so where did his brains go?

    • 32and53fan says:

      In candid photos taken lately, he looks unhappy. Even in a Post Game TV interview after doing well, they told him he looked too serious and it was ok to smile. Maybe his problem is mental?

  61. kahliforni says:

    Classic double-speak by Stan Kasten, commenting on Colletti, whose guaranteed portion of contract expires at the end of this season:

    “I think you should regard Ned as permanent,” Kasten said. “That would be the case whether he’s here for 20 years or a much shorter period.”

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      I regard Ned as a dumbass who seems like he’s been here 20 years though its been a much shorter period.

      • trublu4ever says:

        Let’s say Ned is around for a while…..wouldn’t the new owners have a yea or nay vote as to who he wants to sign? Perhaps, we don’t want anymore old farts! Or, Ned, you must be kidding on this one 😉

      • kahliforni says:

        I wouldn’t call Kasten’s statement exactly a vote of confidence for Ned.

  62. koufax1963 says:

    That game last night made Donnie look like a genius. He puts gwynn in CF, and he makes a great cut off to hold the runner to 2nd, and puts loney in at 1B and he saves two runs and a runner at 2nd situation, when it was just a 4-1 game, that could of given the gnats momentum, but “NO”.
    It was the gnats who looked really pathetic, they gave the game away in the 8th. To the people still knocking Loney, I understand when the overall BA, RBI,HR is taken in to account, but he put the bat on the ball last night with authority, I think he will come around and those balls will get through for hits, if Donnie plays him regularly. I think he is in the moment, soon his groove will come. Optimist fan, you bet I am.

  63. JhallWally says:

    Wow, what a beat down of the G’nats last night. Hopefully Kersh can keep it going.
    I’m still not real happy that the first act of the new ownership was to blatently lie to the fans. They didn’t even lie straight faced. They had Magic do it with a big goofy grin. They must think the Dodger fans are pretty stupid. In the end, they may be right.

    • sparkleplenty1 says:

      Guess it may be easier to dance with the devil you know instead of someone you really don’t know. But Frank really did need to go – the problem is, he’s just not gone far.

    • 32and53fan says:

      I was willing to concede to McCourt participating in any future development of the land since he was smart enough to use his pricey financial and legal advisers to strip it from the Los Angeles Dodgers, Inc. and Bud Selig caved by allowing it to happen. But to see Magic tell his boss to go to the podium and “tell it straight to these people,” and get all huffy because the question about McCourt having any current financial participation was asked three times is a little hard to handle.

      The Guggenheim group should have had to courage to agree to the future development participation but say no way to paying to lease the land unless it was for a dollar a year for legal reasons. McCourt will get plenty of income from investing his billion dollar profit and stands to make a lot more when the property is fully developed.

      I thought the purchase price was more than enough to include the land but I guess the market said otherwise. Too bad O’Malley and Fox did not have the killer capitalist instinct and foresight to keep the land when they sold the team. So, while I abhor Frank McCourt, he used the business laws of this country to his full advantage and to the victor go the spoils. So congratulations you capitalist m****rf****r. You and Charlie Sheen can toss back a few drinks and chant “Winning!” in celebration to your financial victories. Just don’t expect too many people to show up at your funeral.

  64. lbirken says:

    According to today’s paper the Guggenheimers acknowledged they were not exactly forthright in answering questions about the relationship with Frank McCourt. I am convinced the reporters who kept pressing for answers at the ownership ceremonies last week knew they were not getting a straight answer and all the smiles from Magic were not going to make this question go away. I have to assume the only way to make this deal work for the Guggenheimers was to include a deal with Frank, who has outlasted and outsmarted Bud Selig, Jamie, the courts and just about everyone else. There is no reason to lie about it and hopefully this sort of behavior is not indicative of what is to come.

    • 32and53fan says:

      Link? Or name of paper?
      According to Frank McCourt’s real estate attorney who closed the deal:
      “…Guggenheim Baseball Management has purchased the team, stadium and land for $2 billion and the parking area for $150 million in a separate transaction. GBM then sold the parking area back to a joint venture consisting of McCourt and GBM, allowing McCourt to have reasonable control over the parking for Dodger Stadium.”

      • lbirken says:

        L.A. Times Sports, C6, the same place where Kasten makes the puzzling comment about Ned being permanent whether that means 20 years or a much shorter period. It is in the middle of the article and refers to a meeting Kasten had with Times reporters with Kasten regretting giving the impression McCourt would make no money beyond future development. It should be noted it was not Kasten who made the remarks but Johnson and Walters.

  65. trublu4ever says:

    Casey Blake has announced his retirement after a 13 year career. Best wishes to you, Casey, in whatever you choose to do.

  66. nedisajerk says:

    This should not happen and we are the only NL team that given up more walks than run scored.

  67. trublu4ever says:

    Here’s hoping Kesh ia lights-out tonight and, we give him lots of run support. GO DODGERS!

  68. vl4eccjr says:

    Rangers Josh Hamilton’s having a good week tonight in Baltimore. Three 2 run homers gives him the ML lead in HR’s (13) & RBI’s (34). He currently has the AL lead in AVG with .400 too.

    • vl4eccjr says:

      Looks like he’ll get another crack this game too.

    • vl4eccjr says:

      Holy shit! Make that 4 homers with 8 RBI’s going 5 for 5 off 3 different pitchers. The 16th 4 homer game in ML history.
      .406 avg, 14 HR’s, & 36 RBI’s. I think it would be safe to say he likes Camden Yards!

      • sparkleplenty1 says:

        He sure is an amazing hitter to say the least.

      • nedisajerk says:

        I can understand doing it again a last place team with in the middle of the pacK in team ERA but the Orioles has been a surpirse team this year and had the 2nd best ERA in the major.

        • sparkleplenty1 says:

          It just proves the old adage that good hitting can defeat the best pitching on any given day of the week – and vice versa!

          • trublu4ever says:

            …..and, he is a free agent after this season. Hint, Hint, Magic & Co.

          • sparkleplenty1 says:

            This is true, Tru – and I LOVE how you think 😉

          • enchantedbeaver says:

            It’ll never happen. The Rangers won’t let it, and now that its perceived that L.A. has money to spend, most teams will lock-up their best at least through their first 2-3 FA years.

          • vl4eccjr says:

            He’s going to be bringing in some serious paper next year wherever he plays.

          • trublu4ever says:

            Come on, don’t spoil it for me 😉 I can make a wish list can’t I ?

  69. vl4eccjr says:


  70. trublu4ever says:

    Damn, Kersh!

  71. trublu4ever says:

    It’s okay….we can score more than they will!

  72. sparkleplenty1 says:

    I am a bit concerned about Kersh’s giving up dingers in his last few games.

  73. sparkleplenty1 says:

    All right, Dre.

  74. trublu4ever says:

    Way to get us started, Dre!

  75. trublu4ever says:

    Okay, Juan…way to move him over!

  76. trublu4ever says:

    Woo-Hoo, james!

  77. sparkleplenty1 says:

    James!!!! Awesome!!!!! We have to cue up the Loney Song 🙂

  78. vl4eccjr says:

    WTG James!! Back above the Mendoza line!

    • sparkleplenty1 says:

      He’s been getting good contact, just hitting the ball at people. He is due to come around and be the Loney we all know and love 🙂

  79. sparkleplenty1 says:


  80. sparkleplenty1 says:

    Another grrrrr!

  81. sparkleplenty1 says:

    Loney!! What a nice play.

  82. enchantedbeaver says:

    I see we’re grinding again tonight. Be nice if they’d ever get Kersh some runs to work with once in awhile.

  83. trublu4ever says:

    Rally Time!

  84. sparkleplenty1 says:

    We got a little rally going . . . . keeping my fingers crossed, which makes keyboarding a little difficult 😉

  85. vl4eccjr says:

    The rally killer!!

  86. enchantedbeaver says:


  87. trublu4ever says:

    Here we go team, here we go! clap ….. clap!

  88. trublu4ever says:

    Bochy is a wuss!

  89. sparkleplenty1 says:

    I don’t blame him – keeping my fingers crossed for Andre!

  90. vl4eccjr says:


  91. enchantedbeaver says:


  92. vl4eccjr says:

    Here we go. Do or die. Crossing my fingers & toes. Rally cap on. Whiskey at the ready. . .

  93. vl4eccjr says:

    Uribe blew this game.
    Rubber game tomorrow.

  94. oldbrooklynfan says:

    Well at least it wasn’t a sudden ending. Typical 2012 loss. Kershaw goes a full 8 quality start but the Dodgers still lose. This time the offense couldn’t spell Vogelsong.

  95. nellyjune says:

    Bragging rights got evened out tonight in the game department, but I still have bragging rights in the standings department. Let’s win the rubber match tomorrow and take the series.

  96. koufax1963 says:

    Uribe is useless, put sellers at 3rd, for a change. and I really have to wonder about donnie’s strategy in the 8th, ellis bunts with 0 outs, takes the bat out of kemps hand, if he was trying to avoid the DP, well ethier crashed that plan, even the giants annoucers were predicting that point. poor execution of a poor plan. Kersh threw a good game.

  97. kahliforni says:

    Dodgers have been playing .500 ball for a while now, 10-10 since starting 9-1, which is about right, given the team’s make-up right now. Solid pitching, woeful offense beyond that Kemp/Ethier creature. Division is weak, Dodgers will contend all season, and hopefully, reinforcements will come at the usual juncture.

    If Mattingly can pull the trigger in demoting Guerra for a while, then he has to do the same thing with Gordon leading off. Vin keeps saying how Mark Ellis thrives with nobody on base…sounds like a lead-off hitter to me. Kemp batting second and Ethier third might get them an extra at-bat in games down the line. Their offense will look a little different, but Kemp won’t be walked as much in the two hole.

    Just food for thought. Like I said a few days ago, bat Gordon 9th, pitcher 8th…when the order turns over, same old look. Take pressure off the kid. He’s gripping the bat so tight I can see sawdust.

    • messagebear says:

      Interesting plan, Kahli. I for one would like to see how that works, but it is so unorthodox that you can’t possibly expect Donny to consider it.

      • trublu4ever says:

        Nope….Donnie is not the smartest cookie in the box!

        • JhallWally says:

          No Tru, he’s not… And he reiterated it last night. What a tool…

          • 32and53fan says:

            Check out Tony Jackson’s Twitter feed. He hopes reporters ream Mattingly for his sacrifice stupidity.

          • enchantedbeaver says:

            Here’s the problem though, Ellis has to sacrifice in that position even if it takes the bat out of Kemp’s hands.

            1. You have to stay out of the DP.
            2. You can’t hit and run because if Ellis misses, Abreu was the runner at second, and Dee Gordon he isn’t.
            3. Assuming you figure Kemp’s going to be IBB, you have the NL’s leading RBI guy up with the bases loaded and one out and have to think you’re in pretty decent shape at that point.

            Had Dee just sacrificed rather than get a hit, Ellis takes his shot, then they still IBB Kemp. Unfortunately for Donnie, Dre just screwed the pooch.

          • JhallWally says:

            Yep, Ethier bombed big time. He is grossly overrated. Another great April and mediocrity the rest of the season. Sorry gals, eye candy doesn’t produce runs….

            Dildon and Fecolletti keep trying to put lipstick on the pigs. Rivera, Abreu, Loweenio, Uribum, Kennedy, etc….

            You retired your pig Gravatar too soon Beav.


            It’s time to get rid of alot of Neds crap. Starting with Ned and Dildon….

  98. JhallWally says:

    2013 Contract Issues:

    This one is easy. Let’em all walk except AJ Ellis…..

    • crash24now says:

      It’s too early to write off Ethier. See what he does for the full 2012 season, then make a decision.

      As for Uribe, Rivera, and Loney: those guys need to be replaced as soon as possible. July 31st is not soon enough.

      I may be wishing for too much, but it’s Guggenheim money, not mine. I’d like to get Josh Hamilton and David Wright. Add them to a lineup that includes Kemp and Ethier, then we would have a real offense.

    • enchantedbeaver says:

      Should be able to get a decent haul for Dre at the deadline. Even Loney might bring someone halfway decent for a team that loses its 1B to injury. No way I re-sign either of the two. AJ I’d offer arbitration. The rest nobody in their right mind would want, which explains why we’ve got them.

      • enchantedbeaver says:

        And why in hell would you give Treanor an option year or a $150K buyout? The sonofabitch should’ve had to beg just to get an NRI in the first place.

  99. kahliforni says:

    Keep Ethier. The guy is gold-glove, power-hitting left-handed bat. You want to improve? Start with 3rd base and left field.

  100. 32and53fan says:

    New post.

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