Not much has been reported by either side about why Frank McCourt was able to sell the team yet hold on to half of the land. I came across an article (Tom Elias: The Dodger deal’s Prop. 13 loophole) that might explain why the Guggenheim Group and McCourt have become odd bedfellows. It seems that by keeping the ownership of the land by the new owners at no more than 50%, they will save millions of dollars per year on property taxes.
“Amid the euphoria that erupted in much of California when a group led by former basketball great Earvin “Magic” Johnson and financier Mark Walter spent more than $2 billion to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team and its stadium last week, one question led to some consternation.
Why should Frank McCourt, the notoriously wasteful outgoing owner, remain associated with the team, holding a 50 percent interest in the 200-plus acres of asphalt parking around Dodger Stadium?
After all, Dodger fans stayed away from games in droves last year to protest the personal use to which McCourt and his ex-wife Jamie put the team and its money. Fans wanted McCourt gone, even if that let him make off with hundreds of millions of dollars in profits after selling the ballclub.
The answer may have a lot to do with a loophole in Proposition 13, the landmark property tax limitation law passed as a 1978 initiative. That law sets the tax on any property, commercial or residential, at 1 percent of the latest sales price and allows for tax increases of no more than 2 percent per year.”
The complete story can be read at http://www.redding.com/news/2012/apr/03/tom-elias-the-dodger-deals-prop-13-loophole/
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So far, so good for the 2012 Dodgers. Kershaw and Kemp are continuing their torrid 2011 performances. Ethier is looking good with a huge slugging percentage. Dee Gordon is setting the table for those guys and, while his batting average does not show it, Mark Ellis has done what the team wanted and hit several balls to the right side to move Gordon to third base and scoring position for Kemp. Even Uribe has scratched out a few hits. But James Loney is 0 for 2012. He is a vital piece of the puzzle if the Dodgers have any hope of playing in October. With new owners committed to winning and possessing some money, Loney could find himself on another team in August if he doesn’t start hitting the gaps and driving in runs.
Hola!
Billz just gave up a dinger. Luckily for us, nobody else was on base. He is still looking much better…..let’s hope we can give him some run support.
Uh oh!! It’s okay Chad! We can get that run back.
Billz is fortunate to only be down a run. If it was a day game, he’d be down by three.
Not a very big crowd tonight, either. It could be the lousy weather but, I ws expecting to see more people there.
………and the crap just keeps on comin’………
HEADLINE: “L.A. Times objects to Dodgers’ bid to seal conditions of land use”
“The Dodgers have asked the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for permission to file those conditions under seal, citing the “sensitive non-public commercial information” within. Attorneys for The Times argued that the Dodgers have not provided any evidence to support that claim or shown why it should outweigh “the well-established presumption of public access to judicial records.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0412-dodgers-bankruptcy-20120412,0,5344122.story
We all knew this wasn’t going to go off without some wrenches thrown in, but this is kind of getting ridiculous.
Thanks Juan!
Yes, thank-you!
Artist: The Who
Song: Won’t Get Fooled Again
We’ll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
The change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall that’s all
But the world looks just the same
And history ain’t changed
‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
No, no!
I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?
There’s nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
No, no!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
Ah! Memories of long lost destroyed brain cells!
RIP Keith Moon & John Entwhistle.
Nice Job!!!
E will be very pleased!
The cover from the album that contained this song seems fitting. Whoever is the 1%er that is in control doesn’t really matter. They will use their high priced lawyers and take advantage of the laws they paid for. The fans may not like it and piss on them, but the monolith will not be moved.
The gnats’ supposedly fantastic pitching staff has gven up 16 runs tonight….and, the game isn’t over yet 😉
Nice job 32. That may be our first song of 2012.
I see we’re mashing again tonight. If this team can’t hit against Pittsburgh and SD, how are they going to hit against good teams?
Looks like I might’ve arrived just in time for a good old fashioned Billz meltdown?
Whew! A twin killing is Billz best friend getting out of that jam!
I know…I was ready to go for my Rolaids!
Matt’s dialed in tonight.
Dre is the man!
Woo-Hoo…Andre!!!!!
I didn’t check the other thread but I know someone mention Broxton blowing a save today. Look like Escobar error didn’t help much since those 2 runs were unearned.
He did…walked 2 and hit 2!
How was his velocity?
I’m not sure about today but, Enchanted said the other day it wasn’t very good. Poor guy!
ANDRE!!!!!!
I can see tomorrow’s story [again]: …and Ethier singled in the go ahead run in his salary drive for next season.
Matt wants him signed….they have developed a good friendship.
Sucks for Billz!!! Let’s hope James doesn’t waste the opportunity.
Good as time as any for Loney to get his first hit.
Yea…sure!
Loney’s legend lives on.
It must be hard to be a Loweeney 😉
Billz is pissed, as he should be!
CRAP!!!
Loney continues to dig himself in deeper!
Oh, God….not GrrrRear!
Chad 77 ptches throught 6 innings I would be piss to if I was him.
Nice play by Ellis.
Quick work for Grrear.
Some insurance runs would be nice. . .
I’m not really worry about Guerrier and yes he has his up and down but he doesn’t seem to scare me as much as MacDougal.
Nice going Juan!
Woo-hoo…..Juan! And, let;s bring Dre home too!
Way to go Tony!
Nice job junior!
I love Jansen.
Loney continues to peg the suck-o-meter. . .
Eugenio Loney.
ROTFLMFAO!!!
Mark Ellis – this year’s Jamey Carroll. Can’t drive in a run to save his soul.
At least Carroll could hit for average.
Way to go guys…..we are in 1st Place!! I love L.A. !!!!!
Javy gets another save!
Javy says “AMF!”
Another beautiful win for the Dodgers, now 5-1.
Stadium Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles, CA
Attendance 29,729 (53.1% full) – % is based on regular season capacity
Game Time 2:47
All Los Angeles teams won tonight!!
Dodgers won!
Kings won!
Lakers won!
Clippers won!
Wow Durant goes 7/21 but miss a GW 3’s and Westbrook goes 3/14 and they combined to go 10/35 that kind of impressive by the Clippers.
Woo-Hoo, we win!!!!
I hope Loney finds his stroke soon. We are counting on him much more than Uribum. Gonna need more from Capuano and Harang than their initial showings to stay in the race.
Have a great day everyone…..
Jonathan Broxton becomes first pitcher in 46 years to hit two batters to end a game
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/jonathan-broxton-becomes-first-pitcher-46-years-hit-020037455.html
I normally don’t read Big League Stew on yahoo sport blog but couldn’t resist.
Jeff Francoeur sends 20 pizzas to A’s fans
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/jeff-francoeur-gets-pizza-delivered-fans-bleachers-233500021.html;_ylt=AswlVCzPu94Z01MLsACptAjsYcp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkZGlzamw5BG1pdANCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDNDAEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0luZGV4VGVtcA–;_ylg=X3oDMTFvcGs0cnBnBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3
lol geez such a big link from the same blog so glad for copy and paste. How nice was this from Francoeur? The weird part that he played for the opposite team.
If two guys can fit in his pants, Broxton might as well heap more indignity upon himself by walking two, then hitting two to end the game.
Totally hilarious!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those are what you call big boy pants.
Hey Shad, you were asking yesterday about Brox… he was between 92-95 for the most part on his 4-seamer, though he hit 98 once and 96-97 a few times.
It is so stormy here, I pray I don’t lose power tonight….thunder, lightning and tons of rain scare the hell out of me!
Where are you at? I thought you lived in Modesto or Merced.
Broxton sure picked an odd way to end a game but– it’s baseball.
Quick trey.
It actually does make a difference if your 6 and 7 guys can get a hit now and then.
Loney delivers an rbi on his 1st hit, and yawn urbi-less follows through. hmmmm! thunder / lightning in bay area
I believe Capuguano & Lilly will be in a close race on who gives up the most dingers this season.
Might as well stick a fork in him, he’s done for this game. Another 4-5 inning starter.
Thanks Ned. Glad we have him next year too.
Ruh Roh!
It’s McDoo-doo!
More like McShit!
What a choice we have – MacDougal, Coffey or Wright. I’d have gone with Lindblom unless he’s supposed to be the closer tonight.
Pretty sad when the best you have to bring up as a pinch hitter is Adam Kennedy.
Pitifull!
HA! My dad used to say that.
Funny, he was talking about the Dodgers too. Some things never change.
I used to love the way old Jed Clampett used to say it on the Beverly Hillbillies!
A lot like last year – score a few in the first or second inning and never come close again. Its like they figure their work is done and just mail in the last 7-8 innings.
Okay. Who closes tonight? Leave in Grrear? Coffey? Kenley & Javy need a break. They can’t pitch every day.
Javy says, “Damn Donnie, don’t wear out my arm like Joe would’ve.”
Maybe Kenley can have the honors next game if there’s an opportunity & give Javy a rest.
What does Javy say?
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AMF!!!
Well VL, guess it was just you and me tonight cowboy. Wondering if TruMom lost power. Raining/hailing up here.
Anyway, have a great evening!!
G’night beav! Till the next one. . .
Way to go Dodgers!!!
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Enchanted – It hailed and rained buckets here!! Lights flickered but I never lost power completely. I hope all is well with you up in the mountains.
Sorry I missed all the fun last night….I didn’t exactly lose power but, my internet connection was ka-put! Lost it right after I posted about how bad the weather was….at least I got to watch the game.
cappy pitched alright, and loney, finally! just 3 in the first makes me wonder about offense, ah! shots around the blog, its a big dodger sweep!
I hope we can get a bunch of runs tomorrow night but if we get into another save situation, Mattingly will probably use Jansen, I don’t think he’d go to Guerra 4 mights in a row.
6-1, best start in 31 years
GO DODGERS!!!!
Top 9th: Milwaukee
– N. Morgan grounded out to shortstop
– R. Braun struck out swinging
– N. Aoki safe at first on pitcher M. Garza’s throwing error, N. Aoki to second
– G. Kottaras hit for T. Dillard
– S. Camp relieved M. Garza
– G. Kottaras grounded out to shortstop
Kind of suck for fantasy owners missing out on a Garza CG/SO
I’ve got to say I’m mildly surprised. Two series wins.
Woo-Hoo, Sweep!!!
It is encouraging to see the team get off to a good start in this 2012 campaign. Also, nice to see Uribe and Loney actually contribute something to the offense.
It’s only one week however. It is way too early to get too up or down on a player. Now, if your still stinking it up in May, the kid gloves are off.
Have a great day everyone…..
Also, it is very encouraging from reading the articles about the new ownership and specifically Kasten, I don’t get the feeling Nedcompoop is going to have the final say on trades and signings. I don’t want him around in any capacity, but, I think he will just be a puppet GM under this new regime until he is eventually dismissed.
It’s really good news! 🙂
It sure is!
Hi’Ya Tru and Nelly…
It’s just my opinion/gut feeling. I just can’t see Kasten signing off on most of the trades and signings that Ned has made….
I am looking forward to building from within and mostly young homegrown talent. The old “Dodger Way” and coincidently, the way Kasten built the Braves into a dynasty, perennial contender, and respected franchise. A strong farm system and player development is money well spent. It provides much more flexibility and long term sustainability. Free agency is a great way to add a piece or two to get over the hump. And that is only if you have a GM that has a clue about evaluating baseball talent. Unlike Nedcompoop. It is not good for building a whole freaking team. Especially with an ignoramous like Colletti at the helm…..
Ned will go down in the annuls of other greats. Like the captain of the Titanic, the Hindenburg…
BTW, its friggin snowing up here.
Oh no enchanted!!! That will make the neighbors even crazier……if that is possible – LMAO!!!!
We’re experiencing very heavy rain in So Cal right now; there is even a slight possibility of a tornado in/around Fullerton-Brea! Unbelievable . . .
BTW, I watched the game from a nearby restaurant the other night; the closed caption option was thoroughly bad. But the funniest butchering of names happened to be that of Andre. They kept calling in “Either Year”.
Wondering if we’ll get the game in tonight after a full day of rain and thunderstorms…
Hoping that Vinny will be back…
Lineup tonight – Whence Gordon?
Gwynn LF
Ellis 2B
Kemp CF
Rivera 1B
Ethier RF
Uribe 3B
Sellers SS
AJEllis C
Harang P
Oh well, Tattoo for Tru!
I’m glad Tattoo is getting a chance to play tonight. However, I think as soon as they activate Lilly, he will be sent down.
I’m hoping that Coffey gets the boot instead of Sellers being sent down. The only reason Coffey’s on the team is that they needed someone to wear Broxton’s old pants. He’s just not a good pitcher, IMHO.
I hope you are right. I don’t want Lindblom sent down either…he’s done a decent job and deserves to stay….he could even fill in as a starter if needed.
Coffey would be my first choice, but you know Ned. Lindblom’s got options, and heaven forbid we DFA a PVL before August.
LMAO!!
I think you’re onto something Sparky…..
How they hangin’ Wally?
I’m not sure about Wally but, I just took my bra off and, I’m really hangin’ 😉
Back and to the left…. LOL!!!
You go Tru….
( ( 🙂 ) )
You’ve actually rendered me speechless Tru.
Who, me?! lol… I take that as a compliment!
Enchanted – you may be speechless, but I turned a few shades of red and said “Good Lord” for good measure – LOL!!!
HA HA, I like that about the pants.
HAHA I like that about the pants.
Well, I wonder what we will get from Haranguano tonight?
I just hope we score more runs than they do….we must do better than last night or, we wiill lose. Not trying to be a downer …. just honest.
Yep, I think you are right. 3 runs probably won’t get it done tonight.
Dodgers sale is officially finalized. Judge Gross approved the sale after much arguing centering on documents and parking lots. In the end, Judge said HE would mediate any disputes surrounding parking lots, not MLB or a mediator, as Frrank wanted.
Wooo Hoooo!!!
Things are finally headed in the right direction…I’m so glad!
Yep, one way or another, it will be nice to put this sad chapter in the past.
No Kidding!!! All those promises of a young gun dynasty stripped by a criminal and an idiot. We got rid of the criminal. Now we just got to get rid of the idiot.
Ain’t that the truth? Now we get to see the true worth of the new owners.
I’m just wondering about Aaron Harang at the moment. He better be better than he was on Sunday.
After the first inning, he wasn’t too bad. Let’s see how inning #2 goes.
Struck out the side – looking okay for now, but it’s too early to tell.
So we replace our .200 leadoff man with a … .200 hitting leadoff man?
lol….they said his 140 lb. body needed a rest….and, Dee was hitting fly balls which means he is tired 🙂
Gonna be a long frustrating year if we don’t get some decent OBP from Gordon and Ellis.
Ellis is a lost cause. Good glove work, but I’m not seeing to where it can nullify his anemic hitting.
MEllis is certainly not ideal but right now he is not nearly as big of a problem as Uribum and Logenio….
At least they are above the Loney Line.
With all these ‘K’s’, I guess Harangutang ate his Wheaties this morning.
More like Special K. 🙂
Nice 32/53!!!
Well, it looks like Logenio has been pretty much relegated to a straight platoon at 1st. Sure hope he gets it together.
I stand corrected. Here I was thinking it was Loweenio. Silly me!
LOL!! I like it VL….
I see we’re going to be grinding again tonight.
We’ve got too many grinders and not enough mashers….
We don’t have any ricers either 🙂
Where did Miles end up going?
He hasn’t signed with anyone.
Yep, he’s still waiting for the phone to ring.
Miles is sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring. He did not sign anywhere for 2012.
Wow! No wonder I couldn’t find info on him. Surprising! Maybe the age? Who knows for sure?
Wow!!! 9 straight K’s….
Way to go Aaron Harang!!! 9 K’s in a row and a new Dodger record. He’s got some of Andre’s chip on his shoulder too 🙂
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We need to score some runs!!!
Yes….let’s help him out!
Yep, doesn’t mean squat if we don’t get him some runs….
Just a thought….if the Padres and Pirates play, they may have to go into extra innings to score a run 😉
Rally time!!
Jeez, the crowd looks pathetic again tonight.
I think tonight it had a lot to do with the weather.
Lookout! Its Jamey Ellis.
Knew if I said that they’d score a run.
Wow!!!
Ha…..Ellis gets rbis!
The more I see of AJ Ellis, the better I like him.
Agreed Sparky!!
WOW! Any way you can get them I guess!!
Come on Dre…do your thing!
YAY…he did!
DRE!!!
Let’s see if it’ll work again…
Dre sucks against lefties…
It works!
You’re on a roll Beav!! 🙂 WTG Andre!!
Didn’t want to waste one on Uribe 🙂
Maybe if we say Ned is wonderful, he will get the axe!
🙂 It couldn’t hurt. Anything is worth a shot to get rid of his lame act….
Holy shit beav! Your mojo is strong this evening! 😉
It’s NL RBI Leader, Andre Ethier 🙂
DOH!!! So much for tying the record. .
and there goes the shut out . . . . .
He better get it together…..we need to keep the lead.
Ka-Boom!! Wrong kind of K…. Hope he can keep the wheels on the wagon….
Think Harangatan is going to be done after 5 (if not sooner) with all the pitches he’s throwing
Oh Crap! I missed my period.
LMAO!!! You sure are on a roll tonight.
Shit!
Harang’s pulling a Billz and giving the lead right back the next inning.
Don’t think anyone’s ever going to accuse him of being a good pitcher.
Way to go Justin!!!!
All right AJ!!
WTG Junior!
Matty!!!!!!!
BOOM!!!
Matt delivers!
Awesome!!!! That’s the way to hit, guys!
Way to go AJ!!!
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Way to go Matt!!!
Suhhhh-Weeet!!!!!
Harang needs to shut the door now.
And, he did…just for you 😉
Guess he didn’t want to incur my wrath!!
:-)….nobody would. A wrathful Beaver would be something to behold!
Just remember, Beavers don’t suck, we bite!
Whew! A ‘wrathfull Beaver’ is a pretty frightening thought! LMAO!!
lmao
I’m surprised he made it through six!
I am really liking AJ Ellis. So happy he is getting a legitimate season to prove he can do this. He did the forward in Clayton and Ellen’s book, and he has intrigued me ever since. He knows his pitcher’s well.
Have to agree. So far he’s been much better than I expected.
BooRibe drives me nuts!
Hey all…Just dropping in real quick to say hi….Hope all is well with all of you….Wow 13 K’s for Harang….Have a great night
Thanks for stopping by DodgerZona!!!!
Next time you must stay a while.
Hey Zona. You too. Good to see ya…
Just catching up…
What? Thirteen strikeouts? Where’d he come from?
What? No more Lingerie football? What’s a guy to do?
Hey Crash. What’s up? Harang had it working tonight.
They need to form a Lingerie Softball League…
Hey Wally. Lingerie volleyball would work for me.
Good call.. LOL!!
Time to see what temp the Coffey is. . .Hot, lukewarm, or cold?
Cold!
Pfffffffffffffft! This guy is worthless!! Send him down!
I’d rather they put him down. They shoot horses don’t they?
I hate to agree with the British, but maybe Tea is better than Coffey.
( 🙂 )
Hope they haven’t optioned Lindblom out already. How could anyone compare Coffey and Lindblom and want to keep Coffey?
Please DFA this clown.
So far, he’s as useless as Testicles on the Pope!
LMAO!!!
( ( 🙂 🙂 ) )!!!!
LOL!!!
What a turd. If they keep this running sack of shit instead of Lindblom, something is very wrong…
Holy crap! You’re right, Enchanted…..we need Lindblom more than this piece of crap!
Time to throw out the Coffey grounds with the trash. DFA him!
One could believe with an ERA of 36, it would be a no brainer!
You would think that even Ned would be hard pressed to find someone worse than MacDogturd, by by gawd he did it.
but by gawd that is.
Elbert needs to pull his head out or they can DFA him too.
The Rox beat the D-Backs!!!
Good! I’m tired of hearing all the “experts” saying they are the elite team in the West.
Matt caught napping!
Jeez! A terrible report card for the bully tonight!
Way to go, Mr. Lindblom!
Lindblom just removed ALL doubt as to who should be kicked to the curb!
Great Job!
You watch…they will send him down.
I still think it will be Justin…..they need 13 pitchers!
The way Donnie uses his pen they do, but I think they’ll option Lindblom. Can’t wait for Kasten to basically become our GM during Ned’s lame duck period.
And besides that, Ned always follows-up one mistake by compounding it with another
Time for K-J!
Wow! Impressive! The Kings leave Vancouver up 2-0 in their series.
I was going back and forth between the games. That Kings game was amazing as well. Those Canucks have got to go!!
F*ck!
Sheee – yit!!!
I was worried about that with K-J’s velocity down!!!
Damn. I’m starting to think Kenley’s the one who’ll get sent down.
I don’t think he came in warmed up enough.
There is no excuse for our “pitching staff” to give up 8 runs to this team!
Crap!! Except for Lindblom and Guerra, our bullpen is a mess…
Looks like it’s going to be up to James 😉
…..make that Andre.
James’ Oh-fifty is on the line…
Andre sucks. (mojo mojo mojo)
Especially against lefties…
Well that was easy.
🙂
vl4eccjr says:
April 13, 2012 at 8:05 pm (Edit)
Holy shit beav! Your mojo is strong this evening!
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I called it earlier! Whatever works!
YAY…..AN RBI FOR DRE!
It’s a really ugly way to win, but we’ll take it!
I was really worried who’d we bring in next to pitch.
Woo-Hoo, Walk Streak!!!
GOOD EYES!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!! What a walk that was!!!
Lilly still starting tomorrow? May be a great time for one of Joe’s patented throw away games – Hairston – Treanor – Kennedy. Wright can come in after Lilly’s given up 7 in 5…
What a game!! Have a great evening everyone. Catch you all down the road….
Have a great Saturday my brother!
Good Night Jhall!!! ……or should we say “Good Morning” to you and Oldbrooklynfan? 🙂
Me too….this old lady needs her beauty rest 😉
I guess I understand the tax implications of Guggenheim allowing McSlime to remain a partial owner of the parking lots.
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But how does that explain Magic sitting next to aforementioned slimeball on Opening Day in San Diego?
So rather than DFA the bum, Ned puts Coffey on the DL with a “bad knee.” Why does Ned continue to maipulate the DL just to keep garbage like this around? Bad enough he signs it, but then he has to bag it and save it for later. Do have to admit though, there can’t be too many pitchers around with an ERA of 36.00 that own a 1-0 record.
The only good thing about this is that Lindblom & Sellers are stiil on the team.
Far be it from me to argue with Ned and his DL decisions, but Coffey’s knee didn’t look “bad” when he ran in from the bull pen last night. Guess it happened on his way to the dugout after he was through throwing batting practice during last night’s game.