Two Steps Forward, One Step Backward

Despite the general state of unhappiness with the Dodgers expressed on various blogs, the team actually has played much better in the last month or so.  From July 7, they have won 15 out of 25 games.  On Sunday morning, they found themselves 9 games behind in the race for the NL West.  With Clayton Kershaw on the mound, it seemed like a good bet that they could have swept the series and moved ahead of the Rockies.  Instead, Kershaw could not hold his lead and the team headed back to LA ten games behind the Giants.

Any illusion that the team could have reached the playoffs has dissolved with the loss.  With the Phillies, who have the best record in baseball and who have won 9 out of their last 10 games coming into town, the Dodgers face a tough challenge.

Don Mattingly said that the Dodgers need to win every day.  He might be exaggerating a bit but they probably need to win 3 of 4 the rest of the way to have any chance to reach the playoffs.

This Day in Dodgers History

On August 8, 2000 – Darren Dreifort hits two home runs and gets the win in the Dodgers’ 7-5 victory over the Cubs. The starting pitcher, who hurls 6.2 innings, goes deep in the bottom of the fourth and fifth frames.

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117 Responses to Two Steps Forward, One Step Backward

  1. dodgereric says:

    Nice story here: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-attendance-20110808,0,1938553.story

    It’s almost like reading my updates. I’ll use it to double-check my own figures. Every now and then they’ll adjust the number they announce during the game.

  2. selltheteam says:

    “Don Mattingly said that the Dodgers need to win every day.”

    Then why in the world would he ever start Eugenio Velez? Velez has got to be the worst Giant reject that the Dodgers have ever taken on, and that’s including Jason Schmidt and Juan Uribe.

  3. messagebear says:

    They’re playing Velez because this ownership and management have given up on the season. Other than bringing up Eovaldi, they’re not even using the rest of the season for trying out prospects. They traded off the next logical prospect to bring up – Robinson. They probably don’t believe in De Jesus or Sellars, or just want to ride out the season with everybody else in place in the minors. What’s to be gained by bringing people up. This fucked up ownership and Ned, and even Donnie don’t really give a shit what happens on the field the rest of the way. So, why should we. I hope the Stadium is virtually empty the rest of the season. The only thing to wait for is the next court hearing, and with the nature of our legal system, it’s easier watching th grass grow.

    Bye, bye, Andre.
    Bye, bye Matt.
    Probably, Bye, bye Kersh before we ever get a new owner.
    Think Bud even cares?

  4. dodgereric says:

    I’m thinking that Ned’s using statistical research that is forever 36 months late. It’s the only reason that makes sense.

    2008 Velez .262
    2005 Andruw .263 w/51 HRs
    2004 Schmidt 18-7 w/3.20 ERA

    etc, etc, etc……..

  5. JhallWally says:

    Hello and Good Afternoon Fellow Frustrated Fans,

    Very disappointing loss last night. I thought we had’em. Oh well, at least with the win, the D’Backs are still right on the G’Aints tail. It is also somewhat amusing to hear people seriously talking about this team making a playoff run. Geez!! I think you would have to be as out of touch with reality as Frank to actually believe for a millisecond that this team has what it takes to be a .500 team, much less a contender. I mean come on, this is a team that has started Velez 4 or 5 games in the last two weeks and a first baseman that basically hits a HR once a month and is on pace for 6 HR and 50 RBIs.

    Anyway, it still amazes me that people would do anything that puts money in Franks pocket and it is even more mystifying when you look at the inferior product that Ned has assembled. But, from the recent media, it looks like the boycott is having an effect. Hopefully the attendance drop will get even larger and the courts will not overthrow MLB by allowing McCourt to sell the future TV rights. That is basically what it is going to come down to.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/08/why-dodgers-loss-of-27-million-coule-be-only-the-beginning.html

    • You ever want to know why there are still people going to the games and lining Frank’s pockets, just visit Gurnick’s blog.

      Be careful though, they might spill some KoolAid on you.

      • JhallWally says:

        LOL!! Hi’Ya Beav!! What’s shakin’ my brother. Yeah, some real losers on those Gurnick threads. I stopped reading them long ago. Hope to catch you here later for the game. Help us keep up the good fight here “Outside The Dodgers.” ITD is dead and I have no desire to be “Inside” the Dodgers as long as Frank and Ned have anything to do with the organization.

        • Yeah, its about time for some “education” over there.

        • lbirken says:

          I am sorry to see ITD peter out the way it has. It used to be fun reading the posts, seeing the songs and such. Hopefully someday things will change for the better. In the meantime, keep the faith and support the Dodger brand and legacy, and don’t let McCourt take your love for the Dodgers away from you.

          • 32and53fan says:

            Stay tuned… there will be at least one new song posted very soon.

            As far as Josh’s posts go, they are primarily for the purpose of trying to sell us something. I was hoping the “Inside” stuff would be stories of the people who work in the little known corners of Dodger Stadium. Or something on the personal lives of the players and coaches. Anything other than touting the latest promotional offer by the Marketing department. Most comments on ITD did not even respond to the posts, we just used it as a place to chat with each other before, during, and after the game. For chatting purposes, this blog works much better with the ability to post images and edit comments.

            It is ironic that the real “Inside the Dodgers” news appears here via Josh’s Tweets rather than on the ITD site. It is also strange that Josh has never responded to a comment in the comment section. Tony Jackson is very good about returning tweets and emails.

            I am a long time Dodger fan who will still be rooting for the team long after McCourt is gone. BTW, I just finished reading “Forever Blue”, the story of Walter O’Malley and his leadership of the Dodgers. See if your library has it. It is well worth reading.

        • I’ll check in later my friend.

          After Ned downgraded this team to a AA+ rating, I can’t wait to see the shellacking its going to take today (and this series) too.

  6. 32and53fan says:

    Dodgers lineup vs. Phillies:

    Gwynn LF
    Blake 3B
    Ethier RF
    Kemp CF
    Miles 2B
    Loney 1B
    Barajas C
    Carroll SS
    Kuroda P

  7. JhallWally says:

    Thanks for the lineup 32. My bad.

  8. trublu4ever says:

    32&53 ~ Has your blog been registered so we can be outdo ITD when the rankings come out? On second thought, I’m sure it has….I just can’t wait until OTD become #1!

    • 32and53fan says:

      No. I just made an independent WordPress blog. It is not affiliated with the MLBlogs. I believe the official blogs prevent one from doing a lot of normal blog things like posting pictures using the image tag. I don’t know if the owner of an MLBlog can grant people permission to create posts and edit their comments like I have here.

      • trublu4ever says:

        Okay….I like OTD just the way it is!

      • I think the only thing they ask in order to be put on the Top blogs is to change the Theme to a MLB theme. That way, they can see you. We get about 120 comments on average so that’s a lot a day. In a month, that’s some 3600 comments and views, plus when others come on. That’s like tops of fan blogs for sure.

        • I don’t want an MLBlog theme to mess up the format. I like the way the replies on a thread are indented. On ITD it is difficult to see the threaded comments. I will have to see if I can maintain the format if I pick a MLB theme. I really don’t care if this shows up in the ratings but if some you want, I’ll see what I can do.

          In the 23 days that this blog has been recognized, there have been 7,874 views, an average of 342 per day. There have been 2,120 comments, averaging 92 per day.

          • Personally, it looks amazing and professional built the way it is right now..The MLB Themes look old and unimaginative. That’s why I changed my theme from a mlb one to one from wordpress..

            Easily, that could be a #1 blog..

    • JhallWally says:

      Those rankings are bullshit. I’m not sure how they rate them but, they must count visits to the site as much as a comment. Alot of those top blogs don’t get 10 freaking comments per thread.

  9. 32and53fan says:

    I will check in later. I need to mow the lawn and then go to Burger King. I just found out they have Whoppers for 88 cents until 8PM.

  10. trublu4ever says:

    mlbNetwork doesn’t know why we would give up a promising young prospect, Trayvon…..see, even they think Ned is an idiot!

  11. trublu4ever says:

    Let’s take a guess……how many runs will we score off Halliday?

  12. messagebear says:

    Maybe once they replace McCourt, Ned and even Rawitch, MLB can accept this blog under the name “Inside DodgersAgain”, and we can all vie for #1. In the meantime, I like the way this blog is working, and much thanks to those responsible for maintaining it.
    GO DODGERS!
    DOWN MC COURT AND NED!

  13. trublu4ever says:

    “Phillies are on the board before the chairs are warm”……Vinny

  14. trublu4ever says:

    Looks like a decent crowd tonight 😦

  15. trublu4ever says:

    Wow….2 hits!

  16. trublu4ever says:

    I’m so glad Kuroda wanted to stay with us.

  17. enchantedbeaver says:

    Sure am glad Kuroda stayed. Really hoping Ned signs him again next year when he’s 37.

  18. JhallWally says:

    Halladay with an early 3 run lead. Ain’t looking good for the home team. Oh well, enjoy watching a real baseball team.

  19. enchantedbeaver says:

    Anyone think Dee’s injury has been misdiagnosed? If I was Rubby, I’d have gotten a second opinion too.

  20. enchantedbeaver says:

    Any team that sports Miles as its #5 hitter ain’t long for ANY evening.

  21. enchantedbeaver says:

    I see Barajas is going on his two week hitting binge so Ned’ll bring him back again next year.

  22. DodgerZona says:

    I get a kick out of Enchanted’s post LOL……Barajas YOUR STARTING Catcher 2012 lol….Ya Ned will resign him that’s for sure Enchanted

  23. DodgerZona says:

    I love the Dodgers but i feel a sweep coming…..I root for the players but never for Ned and McBroke

  24. Could of been a different story had Kersh won last night, but now the team goes through a given ass whooping at the hands of philly and then probably go back to double diggit games back..

    • trublu4ever says:

      You’re right. And, the Dbacks are being blown out by the Astros….gnats losing too (but it’s early in the game)

      • thats whaT IM at least holding out hope for..that the gnats lose like the next 20 games and timmy gets arrested for dealing pot and wilson gets his beard shaven off..

        lets get to 2nd place at least by the end of august and then see what happens the rest of the way..can you imagine how weird it would be to have a dodgers playoff team this year, with near empty park and all, and a bankruptcy and injury morgue along for the ride..

        we all would take that as a resilience but frank would take it as another fine season with great outcomes..

  25. trublu4ever says:

    Good hustle, Dre!

  26. Nellyjune says:

    Way to go Andre!!! Nice hustle!

  27. DodgerZona says:

    Do you all really think Ned will be the GM in 2012? I sure hope not

  28. DodgerZona says:

    Anyone but Ned

  29. enchantedbeaver says:

    Most people learn from experience and get better at their jobs the longer they’ve been doing it. I submit that Ned has gotten worse each and every year he’s been at the controls.

  30. trublu4ever says:

    Yuck!

  31. enchantedbeaver says:

    This team is beyond pathetic.

  32. trublu4ever says:

    35,380….Paid attendance.

  33. trublu4ever says:

    Juan!

  34. vl4eccjr says:

    Nice going McShit!

  35. selltheteam says:

    This team bunts way too much. A clear sign of an inept offense.

  36. DodgerZona says:

    Mcdud

  37. 32and53fan says:

    One last chance… heart of lineup coming up. Good luck team.

  38. trublu4ever says:

    Ugh! I’m out. See you tomorrow!

  39. DodgerZona says:

    Thanks Ned…..What a wonderful GM……NOT

  40. Nellyjune says:

    Well, the only good things about tonight’s game was the gnats and the Dbacks both lost, and the attendance continues it’s slump.

  41. DodgerZona says:

    I only hope Ned and McBroke will be gone sooner then later Nelly

  42. dodgereric says:

    That was an ugly game. Even if I were the Phillies, I wouldn’t be too proud of this one. They were given most of their runs, then tried their best to give it way only to have the Dodgers say, “No thanks.”

    A minor milestone in negative attendance tonight. The fiftieth game where the attendance was worse than last year. Fifty out of 60, we’re batting .833 this year. If we can drop it another 400 per, we’ll pass the Brewers for #11 in MLB attendance. Three hundred more will get us past the Rockies, but I don’t think we can get any lower than that. But from #3 last year to #12 would certainly be a significant drop.

    Game 60 attendance (2010): 43,896
    Today’s attendance courtesy of trumom: 35,380
    Greater than last year = 9 / Less than last year = 50
    5th straight game of negative attendance

    Games less than 30,000 this season – 9
    Games less than 30,000 in 2005 – 2010: none
    Last game was 9/14/2004 – 29,704

    Lowest attended game of the year: Game 8 – 27,439
    Largest single game drop: Game 18 (55,662 – 28,419 = 27,243)

    2010 attendance (60 games) – 2,676,987 (44,616 average)
    2011 attendance (60 games) – 2,202,489 (36,706 average) #10 in MLB

    Drop of 474,498 total
    Average drop of 7908
    Extrapolated for 81 games – 640,572
    Projected 2011 final attendance – 2,973,360
    2010’s final attendance – 3,562,318 (#3 in MLB)

    Next game’s (61) attendance in 2010 – 49,540

    Crowds less than 30,000 in 2010: none. 2011: 9
    Crowds 30,000 – 39,999 in 2010: 13. 2011: 36
    Crowds 40,000 – 49,999 in 2010: 36. 2011: 10
    Crowds 50,000 – 55,999 in 2010: 7. 2011: 2
    Sellouts (56,000) in 2010: 4. 2011: 3

    Lord, I hope I’m not doing this again next year. I might get suicidal.

    • Nellyjune says:

      It would be best if Frank were gone sometime before the end of the season, but I don’t see that happening. The next best thing would be for him to be gone before the winter meetings, and hopefully Ned goes with him. If it doesn’t happen before then, I bet you are doing this into next season for an even sucker lineup.

  43. 32and53fan says:

    I guess now it’s one step backwards, another step backwards.

  44. dodgereric says:

    I love the Dodgers. Always have. But lately, I’ve been feeling that I know what the Red Sox fans felt like for 80 years and what the Cubs fans felt like for, well, still feel like for 100 years.

    Nineteen Eighty eight is now 23 years ago, but it’s more than that.

    With all of our history, why don’t we have career leaders in anything?

    Games played – #1 is Pete Rose @ 3562.
    #1 Dodger is Bill Buckner @ #48. Unfortunately, only 773 of them were with the Dodgers, so farther down we go…..to Ron Fairly @ $65. He played about half of his games with the Dodgers. #71 is Willie Davis so we can finally stop here.

    At Bats – Again Rose is #1 with 14,053. 3-Dog comes in #58 with 9174

    Runs – Rickey Henderson with 2295 is #1. Pee Wee Reese is tied for 105th with someone named Lave Cross (1339 runs)

    Hits – Of course Rose with 4256. Good ol’ Zack Wheat chimes in @ #37 with 2884. Then it’s a drop to #77 with Steve Garvey.

    OK, even I’m getting bored. But just a few more of the major catagories…….

    HRs – debatable, but just by the numbers, YouKnowWho with 762. Ours is Duke Snider @ #47 with 407.

    RBIs – Aaron @ 2297. The Duke again @ 85 with 1333.

    Pitching?

    Wins – Cy Young with 511. Don Sutton (of all people) finally gives us a respectable tie for 14th with Nolan Ryan with 324 (230 of them with us). Don Drysdale is tied for #95 with 209.

    Strikeouts – Ryan with 5714. Sutton again pulls our fat out of the fire with 3574 in #7 position. Then we drop to Drysdale at #30.

    OK, that’s more than enough. Get my point? Let me pick one at random – oh, how about HRs?

    Giants
    Braves
    Yankees
    Giants
    Mariners/Reds/etc
    Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
    WhiteSox/Cubs
    Indian/Phillie/WhiteSox/etc
    Reds/Orioles
    A’s/Cardinals
    Twins
    White Sox/Rangers/Orioles
    A’s/Angels/Yankees
    Indians/RedSox/Dodgers
    Phillies
    Yankees
    RedSox/A’s
    Giants
    WhiteSox/etc
    Red Sox
    Cubs
    Braves
    Giants
    Padres/Brewers/Marlins/Dodgers/Braves/Mets/Tigers
    Orioles
    Yankees
    BlueJays/Padres/Braves/Tampa/Cubs
    Cardinals
    Pirates
    BlueJays/Mets
    Padres/Yankees/Angels/Twins
    A’s/Rangers/etc
    Red Sox
    Astros
    Expos/Angels
    Braves
    Giants/Mets/Cubs/A’s
    Expos/Cubs
    Cardinals
    Rangers
    Orioles
    Dodgers/Mets
    Cubs
    A’s/Yankees/Rockies
    Braves/Giants/Tigers
    Braves
    Dodgers

    Oh sure, we got little bits and pieces of some great ones. But not many Dodgers in there, considering our history.

    We saw Jim Thome hit none of his 598.
    Frank Robinson hit 19 of his 586 with us in 1972.
    Manny Ramirez hit 44 of his 555 with us.
    Gary Sheffield hit 129 of his 509. Now there’s a highlight at #24
    Eddie Murray hit 65 of his 504 here.
    Fred McGriff? 13 of 493
    Mike Piazza hit 176 of his 427 with us. He’s #42 all time. He’ll always be a Dodger to many of us, but sadly, I don’t think he thinks of himself as one any more.

    Home run totals are hardly the exception. They’re the rule.

    Where are all our greats? I’ll tell you where. In Brooklyn. Just look at our Hall-of-Famers. Name anyone in there in Dodger Blue, and you’ll find they either played all of their career there or came to LA in 1958 from there. With one exception. Sutton, who was signed in ’64.

    I didn’t really mean this to be a novel, but what the hell is happening? All those Rookies-of-the-year?

    Frank Howard in ’60. Gone by ’64. Star in Washington, 16 year career in total.
    Jim Lefebvre in ’65. Entire career in LA, but finished in ’72. Eight years.
    Ted Sizemore in ’69. Gone to STL in ’71. Back for 1 year, then gone again. 12 year career.
    Rick Sutcliffe in ’79. Gone by ’82, 18 year career.
    Steve Howe in ’80. Gone by ’85. We all know he was different, but he did manage a 12 year career somehow.
    Fernando Valenzuela in ’81. One exception, although his 10 years here faded after 7 or 8. He stuck around for 17 seasons.
    Steve Sax in ’82 was another one, but again, 8 years here and 14 in all.
    Eric Karros in ’92 started the next run. 12 of his 14 seasons were here.
    Mike Piazza in ’93 spent only 6 of his 16 years in Dodger blue. I agree with those who wish we had been able to sign him to a 1-day deal to finish up here. This one needn’t have happened to us.
    Raul Mondesi in ’94 spent 6 of his 13 here.
    Hideo Nomo in ’95 was here for 3-1/2 years, went on a walk-about for 3-1/2 more, came back for 3 more before going away again. 7 outta 12.
    Todd Hollingsworth in ’95 was our last ROY. He left in 2000 and had a 12 year career.

    Well, you’re probably more tired of reading this sludge than I am of writing it. But what has happened here? We’ve won 5 World Series and have had great players and great times. But the truly great ones were either obtained in Brooklyn or spent too little time here. The Dodgers were in Brooklyn for what, 72 years? Wheat, Herman, Snider, Koufax, Drysdale, Campanella, Hodges, Newcombe, Reese, etc. We’ve had 53 years in this town. Sutton?

    Why?

    • 32and53fan says:

      The next time you feel like writing such a lengthy comment, why not make it a new post for the next day?

      You have some excellent points. We Dodger fans sometimes want to view the team through rose colored glasses. We think that because we had some success from 1955 to 1988 that we must be a dominant team, second only to the Yankees. But when we play a team like the Cardinals, Vin Scully points out how even our records are in the history of both teams. We forget that they had a few World Series wins.

      I notice that whenever I watch MLB TV or ESPN, a Dodger is almost never mentioned or shown in a web gem or play of the day.
      Other than when Manny was here or stories about the debacle of Frank McCourt, the team is rarely featured.

      Maybe we have such an elevated view of the Dodgers, compared to the actual statistics that you have pointed out because of the longevity of our number one Dodger – Vin Scully. He weaves his stories with so much skill that it is easy to be transported back to the golden years in Brooklyn when the Dodgers were in the World Series from 1947 to 1956 six times in ten years. Then in LA from 1959 to 1966.

    • You know, I have always contemplated why we as fans always clamor for the best of others. Not so long ago, other teams clamored for our best, and paid up the ying yang, and before that, a player was bound to his team, per-se pledging allegiance to a football club in the English premiere, Spanish primera, and Bundesliga. Although I am young, I do recall reading and being told of a time when players bled and cried and fought for their team. Now, the only remnants is a clearing of benches. Probably the most infamous for our club is the Roseboro situation, where the pure belief of a team and culture fed into the fire and ultimately erupted into the bat being taken to Roseboro’s head.

      Point is, we haven’t had a ROTY in 16 years, and with the lack of talent that we produce now on a daily basis to cover for one position, we’ll never get any notice. We have yet to find the heir apparent to Russell Martin, no heir to Casey Blake and no heir to Manny. Point is, before, we focused on drafting position and pitching at the same time.

      Our pitchers have sucked for the most part since 95, and we’ve had to trade what little talent we had for pitching. That’s the situation. During all those bad years with Fox as owners, we accumulated a bunch of talent which came up in the form of Kemp, Loney, Broxton, Martin, etc. Also, the other reason why this has happened is because the type of player being created outta HS or college is different than before. It was more physical and players we’re bulkier and possesed more power than before. Think of more of a Prince Fielder type. Then, the 70’s started changing into leaner, and then players with muscles but with speed, and then eventually, smallball.

      It’s all a creation of smallball and FA in my opinion. But here’s to someone coming in and winning that freaking ROTY award and hopefully staying here for a long time, and getting up there in them stats.

      • koufax1963 says:

        YH89 I can see your point, but I am convinced that the reason being for the lack of LA Dodgers greats of longevity, which is your point I believe, is two-fold in the simplest terms. One being the ownership of the dodgers and secondly the dilution of talent with expansion teams.

        Notice our lack of ROY coincides with the dissolving of the O’Malley ownership, that from Brooklyn, there was a different philosophy during that administration. And the management was also home grown. To that end we had stable infield for years and groomed from the farm system.

        The obvious expansion teams have allowed players to become MLB professionals that would have never been drafted in the 1960s. It is unfortunate with free agency also, that players do not opt to stay with the same team. This is the current state of MLB.

        Consider yourself lucky, as I do, that the Dodgers did at one time have a fine tradition, I hope they come back to having that tradition actively, instead of historically as you have made clear. There are some great moments in LA Dodgers ball, that I could recite, but I won’t, we should know them, but unfortunately they end for the most part in 1997, and if you are purist, perhaps in the 1980s. And I agree with you, This is a sad and bewildering time for the Dodgers and their fans.

        These are the darkest of seasons for me, and I have no idea when they will brighten or what irreparable damage may continue. I sometimes think it is a Selig conspiracy with McCourt and Colletti in the dark, back room making deals to for the sole purpose of a Dodgers demise. Sad they are. They do suck.

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